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nikolay 2 hours ago

My oldest daughter almost died from the first Gardasil, so you may not die from cervical cancer, but die from something else. I am not against vaccines; my kids are all fully vaccinated on a spaced-out schedule and not taking more than one shot in at least 2 months, and so am I, but the HPV vaccine was not mandatory, so, given the experience and the similar genetics, we didn't do it for the other two kids. Yeah, there's a risk of cancer, which might be curable 5-10-15 years from now, but the risk of side effects is here now... for some. So, it's not always a win-win, and we've got no interest from health authorities in assessing the risk for my other two kids, so they also seem very risk-averse and want us to assume all the negatives.

apparent an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I thought about mentioning the fairly rare but awful cases that seem pretty clearly linked to the shot. It may be not very common, but it is a thing, and it's worth considering in the cost-benefit analysis.

bluedevil2k 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> my kids are all fully vaccinated on a spaced-out schedule and not taking more than one shot in at least 2 months

Why? At what point did you say “I know a better vaccine schedule than highly trained specialist doctors who have done decades of research on hundreds of thousand of children”? You don’t find this incredibly naive to think you know better than them?

naturalmovement 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Because it's his kid and he can raise her however he wants.

Vaccines represent a calculated risk.

Maybe he's raising his daughter in a culture that doesn't celebrate hedonism and massive numbers of casual sexual partners, effectively reducing the risk of HPV-induced cervical cancer to near-zero, no magic potion needed.

mullingitover an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anaphylaxis is going to happen something like 3 per million Gardasil doses.

The math doesn’t math on the decision not to get the vaccine unless you know for a fact that you’re going to have an anaphylactic reaction. The risk of cancer is far higher if you choose to take the alternative risk.

moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ourmandave 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

When you got the shot didn't they tell you about the possible side effects and what to watch for?

I know for the Covid vaccine I had to sit for an hour to make sure of something not happening.