| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago |
| Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first tech product that have been restricted by export controls. These situations pass. Administrations change. Technology evolves. We’ve had export restrictions on different chips and even cryptography software in the past. It doesn’t last forever. |
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| ▲ | baka367 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This decision has, effectively, turned LMMs into a supply chain risk. Before this incident I’d gladly use any anthropic LLM in production features. Right now, this has become a risky decision that can tank my business overnight. |
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| ▲ | simoncion an hour ago | parent [-] | | > Right now, this has become a risky decision that can tank my business overnight. If your business-critical systems rely on SAAS that doesn't have a solid SLA and breach-of-contract provisions that more than cover the damages in the event, you've made "a risky decision that can tank [your] business overnight". If the software your business depends on can't run indefinitely without getting permission to operate from someone else's systems, then you're perpetually at risk of someone else tanking your business because they decided that you can no longer use that software. | | |
| ▲ | redserk an hour ago | parent [-] | | Anyone doing product integrations should recognize it’s a perpetual risk but why stick to the platform that will require US citizenship demands for future models especially when there are other labs with reasonably comparable performance that don’t require this? Anthropic didn’t have to beg for the government to deem their models a security crisis. |
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| ▲ | nutjob2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You're way off the mark, and probably viewing this as an American. If it happens once that means it can happen which means it can happen at any time. When you feel you're a 2nd class person, or 'other', you're not eager to empower your oppressor, quite the opposite. |
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| ▲ | matheusmoreira 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > When you feel you're a 2nd class person, or 'other', you're not eager to empower your oppressor, quite the opposite. Completely agree. |
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| ▲ | ignoramous 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old... I think, this is all a culmination of rapidly eroding trust and soft power between US & its allies for the past 3y. |
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| ▲ | justaj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What makes you believe this is about export controls rather than harvesting data? |
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| ▲ | kgutscode1 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Mass surveillance and all the other that gets associated with mass surveillance |
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| ▲ | RobertDeNiro 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Export controls have typically been for physical goods. Don’t remember the last time it was used for an API |
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| ▲ | input_sh 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You should look up the words "crypto wars". There were absolutely very annoying attempts by the US government to limit encryption, forcing every software maker to maintain two editions of their software: one targeting the domestic audience with no restrictions, and one "international edition" which had to intentionally weakened encryption (as in ship with shorter key lengths). | |
| ▲ | bigiain 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Have we all forgotten PGP already? (Not an API, but certainly not a "physical good") |
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