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maxloh 3 hours ago

Other fully open LLMs include Allen AI's OLMo 3.1 and MBZUAI's K2 Think V2, both of which have released their full training pipelines and datasets.

Nvidia Nemotron is also an open training source model, though a portion of its dataset remains proprietary.

Quoting lambda's comment:

> Note that the Nemotron models are generally stronger than Olmo and K2 Think V2 (according to Artificial Analysis benchmarks), and there is a lot of overlap in their datasets (lots of datasets are based on the same sources with different filtering, Olmo and K2 Think V2 both have used some Nemotron datasets).

> But yeah, Nemotron is a modern and fairly capable LLM, even the 122b is more capable than Deepseek R1 (a 671b model) on most benchmarks, and there's also the recently released 550b Ultra now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48492439

soundworlds 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Allen AI do not get enough love. They are doing GenAI how it should have always been done.

In fact, if the frontier companies had taken their approach, it would have started much slower, but I think we would be far more advanced by 2035. Instead we have a majority of society that wants to see AI fail.

AndrewKemendo 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Fully agree with this and they were leading robotic learning as well even back to 2019.

IsaacSim was (and might still be) the best robotic learning sim and I ran MLAgents.

vcryan an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe I'll give Nemotron another try. Yesterday I used the latest one on OpenRouter and it was bad - worse than StepFun