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Chyzwar 4 hours ago

You can only take responsibility if you also have ownership. Large organizations very quickly become like communist state, nobody own anything and any individual action is suspicious.

rho138 3 hours ago | parent [-]

*failed communist state

In proper function, ownership is an essential identity of any government.

GMoromisato 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would love to hear an example of a successful communist state. You can even restrict it to a limited period in time (USSR 1959-1968 or something).

I promise that I will not try to discredit your answer. I'm just curious what people think.

But if you come back with "the communism I have in mind hasn't been tried yet" then I will definitely make fun of your answer.

gacgacgac 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

What is your rubric for successful? And does it shift if that state was the target of wars of aggression or embargoes?

GMoromisato 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

My rubric is irrelevant--I promised I wouldn't try to argue against whatever countries got named. I'm just curious what people consider a successful communist country.

Stevvo 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

China claims to be building a successful communist state. The argument goes that you need to have wealth first before you can redistribute it, and China is currently in the wealth-building phase of achieving communism.

krapp 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The end goal of communism is supposed to be the elimination of government - a stateless, classless and functionally anarchist society.

Unsurprisingly no state which ever implemented communism ever took that part seriously.

gacgacgac 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is the end goal of one form of communism, but certainly not the end goal of communism. Many communists want a strong state and see a single party as desirable.

epolanski 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's many different communist philosophies.