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jsyang00 7 hours ago

> Pointless CYA

They are literally being forced to do this by the government. The counter-ask if for them to self immolate in order to take a principled stand, as access to all their models is banned.

mad_tortoise 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or move to Europe/China/insert lovely tax haven here. They don't have to base their operations in the USA, they CHOOSE to. I will cancel my subscription because of this, and happily use DeepSeek/mimo or whatever else comes for a fraction of the cost. China won't and mostly can't do anything with my data, the US government can and certainly will.

I'll pick my poison thanks and choose Chinese surveillance.

transcriptase 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps they should stop being holier than thou wackjobs and try the “shut the fuck up and act like a business” strategy of being a business.

Seems to be working for every other AI company.

ianm218 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you think the field you are working in is more dangerous and important to the future of national security than i.e. nuclear energy and nuclear bombs you should really not just shut up and act like a cold blooded capitalist.

It feels like people here are not able to separate their personal dislike of the effective altruist types from a real debate on how big the stakes of AI are.

transcriptase 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s tough to separate with them because “for the greater good” and “saving people from themselves” has historically not gone over well, especially when we all know it’s a veneer and get cold blooded capitalism.

tiahura 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seems to work pretty well at keeping people from playing around with anthrax and fully automatic weapons.

ianm218 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> especially when we all know it’s a veneer and get cold blooded capitalism

This is what I don’t really get about the AI discourse… I don’t have any reason to think this is all a veneer over capitalism. We don’t know what goes on in their head but the track record of the cofounders of Anthropic is quite honest so it feels like a conspiracy theory to suggest they are purposefully getting themselves nationalized when the simplest answer is that there is real documented concern on AI safety risk

actionfromafar 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just pay the bribes already.