Indeed, solar panels and EVs are the way of the self-sufficient rugged individualist. It's an amazing PR and marketing coup to make it the other way around and presented as something for "liberal weaklings" etc.

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tialaramex 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Right, the set of people who actually pump their own oil out of the ground, refine it into something you can put in a modern vehicle engine and drive around on that is likely zero, but the set of people who own panels and storage so they can fill their EV includes my team lead, who is just some guy on a pretty average salary living on a modern housing estate.

The bio-fuel people at least make some kind of sense compared to fossil fuel "survivalists" - but again they're portrayed as just tree huggers!

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qsera an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

>It's an amazing PR and marketing coup to make it the other way around and presented as something for "liberal weaklings" etc.

If there is such a marketing, then people relate to it because EVs are not suited for handling unpredictable situation. You got stuck in a ditch in the middle of nowhere at night, you loss all of your battery getting out of it, and now you are stuck. So you can't take it to unforgiving places.

EVs are great for boring commute that is it. I don't see it changing any time soon.

	▲	slavik81 6 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If you slide off the road and get stuck in a ditch in the middle of the night, an EV is a lot more comfortable. Standard advice for keeping warm is to run the engine for ten minutes every hour and keep the window cracked open due to risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. By contrast, you can leave the EV with the heat on all night.
	▲	elsonrodriguez 23 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		If you run out of gas you’re also stuck. Only upside is that the recovery service can bring you a few gallons of fuel instead of a tow.
	▲	jl6 34 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Surely you call a recovery truck to come pull you out and do an emergency charge on your battery, similar to how they’d provide you with emergency gas if your tank ran dry? Or tow you if they don’t have a charger?
	▲	hnuser123456 27 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Tow trucks are sometimes needed for gasoline cars too.