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vintermann 4 hours ago

It's not an "already", because I assume models will get better at addressing mode collapse.

The irony in the machine generated songs in 1984 was that Winston clearly found meaning in them, feeling like they applied to him, even though he knew they were machine generated: (from memory) "Under the shade of the chestnut tree / I sold you and you sold me / here lie they and here lie we / under the shade of the chestnut tree" - that refers to him and Julia selling each other out, right?

Just like people today - and in George Orwell's day, which was why he made it - find meaning in things which is obviously formulaic manufacured corporate slop, like the endless MCU films.

noduerme 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure the Chestnut Tree song was machine generated. [edit: I also recall Winston thinking that the proles songs were sappy and repetitive]. I took that as an older song predating the machine slop. But maybe you're right, and if so it's a sadder and deeper irony.

Finding meaning in slop is not ennobling of the human spirit, and I see no reason to champion it.

Also if the meaning is that I sold you and you sold me; what is the upside here?