| ▲ | kjkjadksj 2 hours ago |
| If they are fed up with immigration they are stupid. “Gee we have declining birth rates and we want to deny this pool of labor that might correct course because they are brown.” The american empire was built on easy immigration. Turns out the tired and poor that we took in can build empires and win europe’s major wars for them. |
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| ▲ | 10xDev 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The job market has imploded and the economy hasn't been growing since 2008. There definitely needs to be a cap. |
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| ▲ | kjkjadksj 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If only there were more customers to grow markets! Hmm I wonder how that could be done… | | |
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| ▲ | whatevaa 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Immigration is a duct tape solution to fixing things at this point. It is not going to build you an empire today. |
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| ▲ | Dig1t 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why aren’t Japan, Korea, China importing millions from India and Africa to replace their falling birth rates? Because people are not identical interchangeable units. If you drop 1 million Africans into London they don’t simply become British, they are just Africans living in London. People understand intuitively that replacing the native population with foreigners at massive scale mostly just erases the native culture and people (which have existed for thousands of years). The American Empire was built by specifically importing millions of Europeans who shared much history and culture (religion, appearance, history). If America had instead been grown by importing people from India or Africa, the American Empire would not exist. |
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| ▲ | w0de0 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Ah, friend, America was importing people from Africa. Indeed “import” is rather more apt in this case than the several other you’ve ignored (e.g. the mass immigration from Vietnam at the finish of that war). What a horridly dull country it would be were your understanding nearer the truth; what a betrayal of its dream to wish it as you see it; how silly you would seem to your know-nothing antecedents so lumping “Europeans” as one (it is an irony that in their comparatively more nuanced racialism they at least understood a little more of that continent’s ethnic and cultural diversity). | |
| ▲ | eesmith 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ahh, so you want to lock down the border between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom, because if you drop 1 million citizens of Ireland into London they also don't simply become British but are just Irish living in London. The Welsh might have a comment about how much the British government tried to erase the native culture and people who lived on those isles for thousands of years before various foreigners came in on little boats. How are the native Cornish speakers doing these days? The American Empire grew in no little part by specifically importing people from Africa to work as slaves. | |
| ▲ | 10xDev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You are fear mongering here. I do think immigration is double edged, but if you look at the statistics I posted it is very far from replacement level. If you would prefer to have immigrants from the EU instead, then something needs to be done about Brexit. |
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