Spend a few minutes on the teacher subreddits: /r/teachers and /r/professors, specifically. AI has been a disaster for student outcomes and educator performance, more or less across the board. It should be banned in education, but there's no way to enforce that without increasing educator workload substantially (eliminating homework and re-working lesson plans around that; moving tests and projects back into the classroom; etc.)

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ori_b 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Banning it in classrooms isn't going to fix things, not when adults are broadcasting to students that (in the actual words of Sam Altman) "intelligence will be too cheap to meter", that (in the words of Darius Amodei) half of white collar jobs will be gone by the time these students graduate school, and so on. If intelligence is too cheap to meter, mental labor is a losing proposition. In a world like that, why would anyone value an education?

So, it's no surprise they're going to opt out of a system that's investing trillions to make education useless.

Even if the people building this world are wrong -- not all students are equipped to call some of the wealthiest people in the world complete bullshitters. Not all adults are ready to call them out as bullshitters, for that matter.

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raincole 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> If intelligence is too cheap to meter, selling your mental labor is a losing proposition. In a world like that, why would anyone value an education?

The ban is for elementary school. I don't know about you, but when I was 11, what motivated me to go to school definitely wasn't the idea that I could monetize my intelligence later on.

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kristianp an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"intelligence will be too cheap to meter" has been shown to be wrong. They've started metering it.

What makes you think school students are being told that? I've heard that they are told everyone will be using AI to help them write.

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dragonwriter an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> "intelligence will be too cheap to meter" has been shown to be wrong. They've started metering it.

They’ve always been metering AI access (whether this is meaningfully intelligence is a separate question), but that doesn’t prove that there isn’t some time in the future where it won’t be worth metering, only that if there will be, it isn’t here yet.

OTOH, it is still worth noting that from a a consumer-of-the-service perspective, the trend is for more metering, not less (even if that is due at least in part to the rollback off unsustainable subsidies and not to the fundamnetal shifting what is sustainable farther from unmetered access.)

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ori_b an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think they're too illiterate to read what industry leaders are saying? I assure you they're not.

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ryan_n 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Hm maybe I was sheltered or something but I was definitely not reading what industry leaders were saying when I was under 13. I don't think I really even knew who industry leaders were at that time...

	▲	ori_b 14 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I was definitely reading articles online by the age of 13. This is not exactly a small part of the discourse. I'd expect, at this point, it's rather hard to avoid hearing about AI and its impact.

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hoofedear 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’d argue education (especially those early years) is less about making them good white collar workers and moreso making them well rounded people. Education has value beyond monetary gains

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insane_dreamer 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

it'll start to raise the question of not only is college not worth it, but why should we even have compulsory education through high school? (just think of all the money we could save aka spend on the military instead)

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ares623 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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2OEH8eoCRo0 an hour ago | parent [-]

Is this satire?

	▲	QuadmasterXLII an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		He’s either an anthropic employee or a joker, just based on basic timeline math
	▲	ares623 an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yes, I hoped it would've come across as so without the /s. Just goes to show where our fellow engineers are at. "Memory safety is humanity's last problem. Once we solve that then all of life's problems will naturally follow."