| ▲ | tristanj 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Anthropic is going through the classic Ideological Resistance phase where they fight with the government on principles, that every major tech company also went through. Google, Facebook, Apple, Reddit, Microsoft (especially Microsoft) all had this phase. Then the companies realize fighting the US government is a lot of effort, expensive and creates a lot of drama, and it's easier to reach a mutual understanding. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | saghm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
To be fair, most of those companies had those phases with administrations that were a lot less petty than the current one. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Danox 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
They should’ve kept their distance from the government as long as they could don’t volunteer to be helpful. Don’t volunteer to go meet with politicians keep as low profile as you can for as long as you can. Nothing good comes with associating with them. Have a legal department trained to be the buffer between you and the government any contact any questions goes through them and since you’re paying them a ton of money, they are the only people the politicians should get to know, oh, and again and again do not volunteer anything. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | khalic 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You're talking like it's business as usual. None of these companies had anything similar to this retaliation | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wahnfrieden 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Are you sure it’s about principles and not primarily the bribery involved? OAI leadership has bribed the administration. It may be due to principles and the principled stand Anthropic has taken has caused trouble, but they have also not delivered a bribery as far as we can see. When there is a protection money racket in play, it’s hard for me to take other factors as seriously. This is gangster economics not a philosopher’s circle. Here’s another take on this with more details: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48593212 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tehjoker 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The fighting these companies had with the government was very nominal. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cmrdporcupine 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nah, with Google etc it was more realizing their own interests aligned with the interests of the new administration. By which I mean, they are both interested in being filthy rich, making hay while the sun shines, and stopping centrist forces from adding wealth taxes or anti-monopoly regulations. Biden and Harris were getting too uppity about such things for their tastes. Have you seen who Sergey Brin is budding around with these days, and what he -- a formerly very "left liberal" person involved in very vocal anti-Trump protestations inside and outside of Google -- is saying these days? Third richest dude in the world is terrified of wealth taxes being put in place by his former friends, and dating a MAGA "gut-health" influencer. A gentleman's agreement was brokered between SV and the GOP involving some mutual backscratching. Which Dario and crew aren't a part of. Yet. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | mentalgear 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Indeed, the diff: These previous big tech companies where fighting their neo-liberal agenda against a liberal government, now there's an autocratic fascist one fighting a liberal company. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | anonym29 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>(especially Microsoft) Are you joking? When was this? Remember, Microsoft was the very first partner to deliver working warrantless surveillance capabilities (against their customers) to the NSA as part of the unconstitutional PRISM program, and this was back in 2007, nearly two decades ago. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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