| ▲ | engeljohnb 4 hours ago |
| I'm glad it all worked out for this individual. I hope more people live their lives like this as the dystopia progresses. Unfortunately, especially in the US, exercising your rights, or even just reading every paper you're expected to put your name to, not only constantly pisses people off for some reason, but also puts you at a significant disadvantage compared to the people that never push back in the interest of not making waves, or even because "whatever it's fine." |
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| ▲ | deepsun 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Once I rented an apartment in US, and the documents said that they can make videos, pictures and audio recordings of me and my family, and use it for their own purposes including commercial. I objected, but their position was that no one is going to involve legal department for me, and I am free to go away. |
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| ▲ | smcleod 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Pretty sure that's a violation of fundamental human rights as it's your place of living. Surely that can't be legal, even in the US can it? | | |
| ▲ | monkpit 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It doesn’t mean _inside_ the apartment. It means if they decide to film a commercial and you’re walking your dog in the background, they don’t have to ask you. | | |
| ▲ | bigiain 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That sounds a lot like a rationalization desperately grasping at "surely it's not as insane as it sounds, what it _must_ mean is ... " I would want to read and perhaps get legal advice before relying on that interpretation - and before finding I signed over rights to my landlord to make candid porn of me and all his other tenants. | | |
| ▲ | computerdork 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Am pretty sure he's right. I rent out my house, and it is very illegal for the landlord to record video inside the house (or even of the driveway). You are infringing the privacy of your tenants and is a huge no-no. Yeah, if you accidentally recorded families walking through their homes unclothed, this could land a landlord in jail. |
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| ▲ | nkrisc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If it didn’t say it, it doesn’t mean it. | | | |
| ▲ | gerdesj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Thank goodness you read the contract they signed and provided competent legal expertise throughout the process. | |
| ▲ | smcleod 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh right, that's not so bad. Isn't that just being part of modern society? It would be nice to opt to never be recorded but also, it's outside. |
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| ▲ | abawany an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've also read reviews of Greystar properties where the reviewers expressed shock at being forced to consent to such abuse. | |
| ▲ | bsder 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > and I am free to go away. This is the crux of the problem when landlords are allowed to form or join an "association" that gets too pervasive. This was at the heart of the RealPage lawsuits. | |
| ▲ | plagiarist 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I found some shit like that in a gym contract, which I then declined. | |
| ▲ | m0llusk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is basic security. Cameras around entrances, exits, and common areas have become critical for safety and preventing mail theft. | | |
| ▲ | collingreen 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | There is no version of basic security that extends to commercial use of your likeness in their marketing. Be reasonable. |
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| ▲ | uproarchat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I am that person that reads every line of the contracts I sign, including ToS and PP. I appreciate that I can tell who it rubs the wrong way, because it tells me who will shake my hand without intending to honor their word. It changed the way I write these documents as well, the last ToS and PP I wrote can each be read in a single breath. |
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| ▲ | anitil 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | How do you manage the situation socially? I had a very important document with a very expensive professional booked for about 10 minutes. No way I could actually read it in that time - what would you do? | | |
| ▲ | uproarchat 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | "I appreciate the opportunity to work on this with you, I need to give this the time that it deserves to make sure I can honor the commitments in the contract." Always maintain your integrity, a big part of that is honoring your word. Integrity is the only thing you're born with in this life, and if you're lucky you take it with you on the way out. Any person worth getting into contracts with will appreciate the value in that. | |
| ▲ | ambicapter 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not GP, but probably ask them to send me the contract ahead of time, and explain that you need time to read it. |
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| ▲ | solid_fuel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Unfortunately, especially in the US, exercising your rights, or even just reading every paper you're expected to put your name to, not only constantly pisses people off for some reason Yup. It's particularly sad seeing other people in this very thread talking about how they would "ban this customer for life" just for knowing their rights. I think it's pathetic that this has become the culture amongst large swathes of Americans - especially ones who consider themselves patriotic. This country was founded in rebellion and the assertion of our rights, and somehow the exact opposite is now the ideal of many citizens now. |
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| ▲ | treis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't know that signing up for a rewards club and then complaining that you're being marketed to is quite the platonic ideal of rebellion you make it out to be. | |
| ▲ | trhway 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >I think it's pathetic that this has become the culture amongst large swathes of Americans - especially ones who consider themselves patriotic. This country was founded in rebellion and the assertion of our rights, and somehow the exact opposite is now the ideal of many citizens now. DHS is putting on the domestic terrorists watch list those people who took parts in the protests. Or at minimum threatens to put. And if you google a bit more you'd see that it isn't limited to ICE. Any dissent is perceived by the current government in a similar "terrorism" way. For majority of population that would completely chill any desire to assert rights. https://www.markey.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/letter_to_dhs_on... "U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and senior Trump
administration officials have repeatedly suggested that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is building a “domestic terrorists” database comprising information on U.S. citizens protesting ICE’s actions in recent weeks. ... In recent weeks, DHS personnel and senior officials have repeatedly stated that the agency is engaged in efforts to monitor, catalog, and intimidate individuals engaged in peaceful protests" |
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