| Believe it or not, between the two of us we don't read and deliberate on all of the 10,000+ comments submitted here each day. We obviously can only read a small fraction of them via routine monitoring of the site, and we're less likely to see comments in threads like this one that spend fewer than two hours on the front page. We're much more likely to see the comments that are put on our radar via community flags and emails, which is why I saw the one I replied to and not the others. For what it's worth, sentiment analysis is unlikely to yield useful findings in this context, because the probability of a bad comment being flagged is highly correlated with the number of people who see it, which will be much lower in a thread that spends little time on the front page, but a sentiment analysis model won't have access to that data. |
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| ▲ | ofjcihen 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | So 1: I have no idea why you’re replying to me as if I’m attacking you. I’m not and I’m aware of how hard moderation can be as I’ve done it. 2: My idea for sentiment analysis was geared towards bias from this site and its users, not towards the moderation team. 3: While I respect the mod team I’m incredibly unimpressed with your response here, even if this was a misinterpretation of what I meant. Take a breather. | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | It wasn't clear whether you were making a swipe at moderation or the community or both, and I guess I tried to cover all possibilities. You've clarified that it was at the community. Thanks for that. But the guidelines specifically ask us to avoid sneering at the community, because it's repetitive and unfair to the people here. HN is large and heterogeneous. | | |
| ▲ | ofjcihen 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > On that note it would be interesting to do a sentiment analysis of flagged replies. They seem all over the place and it would be interesting to see if there were any biases. Show me where the sneer is. You didn’t “try to cover all possibilities”. You responded to the worst interpretation of what I said and injected some heavy snark in the process. At this point what I see is a moderator who made a mistake and needs to get the last word in which is frankly ridiculous. Please stop interacting with me unless you have some actual rules to enforce. | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Show me where the sneer is. What did you actually mean by this, in your first comment? Genuinely hilarious reply. | | |
| ▲ | ofjcihen 2 days ago | parent [-] | | That I found the reply hilarious. Are you, a mod on this site, actually engaged in a back and forth with a user in an attempt to find anything at all to “moderate”? You made a mistake in your interpretation of my reply and in the process of replying broke multiple of your own rules. Your comment history is filled with reprimands of users for less. If dang wasn’t as impressive as he is this interaction would have zero’d out any respect I have for this mod team. If you genuinely just want to abuse your mod position go ahead and ban me for having the gall to hold you accountable I guess. | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was trying to understand exactly what you meant so I could understand how I got it wrong. It didn’t even cross my mind to ban or penalize your account. We don’t do that. |
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| ▲ | slopinthebag 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Believe it or not, between the two of us we don't read and deliberate on all of the 10,000+ comments submitted here each day. Aren't snarky comments against the rules of this forum? It would be great to have guidance on this because I'm naturally a sarcastic person and I try my best to not let it out on forums such as this. | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I was actually trying to be good humored rather than snarky. I get that it’s not always easy to strike the right balance and sometimes the intended spirit doesn't come across. Regarding this: > My bad, I will do better. Your account is only four months old but already has too many comments that are against the guidelines and the spirit of the site. If you are serious about reforming, that will be welcome and appreciated, but try to be earnest in the way you engage with us. | | |
| ▲ | slopinthebag 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I agree that the intended sprit doesn't always come across. I don't purposely post ragebait or flame bait, I'm more than willing to discuss and debate with people over my comments or views. I get that they are not always popular, but I think it would be against the spirit of this site to censor one's views just because they are unpopular. It's in the spirit of the hacker to be unconventional, and unapologetic about it. In regards to my comment that started this discussion, it's a combination of seeing other very similar comments being posted on this and other related threads, and that it's a verbatim rendition of a viral tweet / meme from X. And the implied point is that one reaps what they sow. I understand that it may strictly go against the rules of the site but it's not (imo) particularly egregious compared to other comments I regularly see, thus it's difficult to calibrate to the accepted discourse. Like I said earlier, it's extremely difficult moderating a forum, especially when it's just two people, at the same time it's also difficult to know what constitutes acceptable behaviour when the rules are applied selectively. Perhaps with the abundance of cheap LLM's, some sort of automation would be beneficial (assuming this isn't happening already). | | |
| ▲ | tomhow 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | We don’t apply the rules selectively. We take action on the breaches we see. If you’re sincere about wanting to observe the guidelines or point out other comments you think may be in breach, you can always email us. Plenty of people do this routinely and it helps a lot. |
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