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WarmWash 7 hours ago

Just like there are many reasons why the climate is getting warmer, not just humans.

See how easy hand waving is?

esarbe 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That human industrial activities are the primary direct causation of the currently observed climate change is a scientific fact, proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

What you show is that there are not many conservatives in academia. The reason for that is manifold. It could be that they are forced out. It could be that their views are changed with higher learning and turn progressive. It could be that conservatives self-select to not go into academia.

Pointing that out is not hand-waving.

jasonlotito 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So you admit you were lying. Gotcha.

WarmWash 7 hours ago | parent [-]

There are not many reasons for climate change, it is in fact just humans. That should be obvious.

anon84873628 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok, so we establish that "Climate change could seem to have many causes, but educated people know that human activity is the proven cause of the majority of the change."

And now you have another situation where "there could be many causes for the change X".

And you think that because Climate Change followed that pattern above, X must necessarily have only one real cause, and that cause is your preferred pet theory.

Does not sound like a convincing argument.

defrost 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Let's just talk about the recent (past 500 years) change in the insulation properties of the planet's atmosphere.

It's been in a constant burbling flux that has many factors, fires, volcanoes, etc all contribute to the steady level of churn.

The substantial change away from baseline is well recorded, tied back to sources by isotopes, and has a single cause - carbon dioxide by products from the combustion and release of previously sequestered carbon sources.

There's no doubt about that - there are multiple atmospheric libraries of gases from various parts of the world to back that up.

The data source sets for atmospheric makeup and ocean thermoclines are deeply tied into Cold War nuclear test monitoring and watching enemies, not some hippy dippy eco friendly new age hand wavyness.