If that were true schools wouldn't have a problem with AI.

AI usage is rampant.

foobarchu 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've actually been told by my teacher friends who used to complain about too much AI that their high school students are starting to reverse course here, and are now bullying each other for actual or perceived AI use. It's become cringe.

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lacy_tinpot 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Assuming that's even remotely true, nerds were bullied for their use of computers.

Now no one uses computers because only loser nerds use computers...

	▲	beepbooptheory 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sure but like.. talking to a chatbot is like the most un-nerdy in spirit thing you can do next to playing football. Nerds are, imo, attracted to esoteric complexity, long bouts of focused, actual, solitude getting to the bottom of the something. it's why they are stereotypically socially misadjusted sometimes. A "dork" is someone who likes AI a lot I think... They usually revolve more around a product or brand, and focus more on how great it is and everyone should like it. Rather than the "you wouldn't understand leave me alone" of the nerd.

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jcranmer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AIUI, most of the AI usage by students is seen by themselves as cheating, and cheating is largely for the tasks that you don't care about. Which means there's likely a strong association with students of generative AI work products with "we don't care about the quality of this stuff."

Rampant use of AI for cheating is not at all incompatible with negative opinions of AI.

	▲	footydude an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Rampant use of AI for cheating is not at all incompatible with negative opinions of AI. Possibly. Either way it (for me at least) neatly highlights why AI will succeed. The students you talk about don't abstain from AI use entirely - they utilise AI for things they consider 'unworthy' of their attention/effort. That is precisely the market AI will capture first - the tasks and processes that people (in general) have to do but don't really have any passion/interest in doing and for which perfection isn't critical. And what may surprise many people in this thread (given its flow so far)...there are a whole heap of things that you and I care about, that 10s if not 100s of millions of other people consider 'unworthy' of their attention/effort and for which they will happily make do with a 'sub par' AI experience if it's cheaper, easier, more convenient.
	▲	Spooky23 30 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		School is also an arms race. They are fighting for rank, once people use it for that purpose you have to keep up.
	▲	lacy_tinpot 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Is this all being astroturfed? Even researcher are using AI to do their research. It's not just being used for cheating.

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