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marcus_cemes 5 hours ago

To be honest, living in Switzerland and speaking with peers, we're just exhausted by the constant AI hype. For a lot of us, the fact that Europe isn't frantically trying to scrape the entire internet and every book in existence for the next massive model isn't a bad thing. The big players are doing their thing, like with the nuclear arms race. We regulate a lot, too much a lot of the time, but sometimes that trickles down to other places too. A lot was done right, imo.

ETH Zurich and EPFL universities recently put out an open model called Apertus (was on the HN front page a few months back), it's not a frontier model, but they built it properly regarding copyright and data transparency.

It might look a bit slow or old-fashioned, but focusing on doing things ethically and legally feels like a much better path than just joining the race to scrape everything.

dr_dshiv 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sir, I would suggest that if Europe fails to be economically competitive, the downstream implications on European society will produce much worse outcomes than (for instance) data transparency…

Doing things with ethical intentions does not necessarily produce outcomes that are beneficial for society at large.

marcus_cemes 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm inclined to agree with you, but you could make the same argument for exploiting natural resources and the environment. I don't think it's being done right at the moment, and it does not seem to be benefiting people as much as certain companies.

tw1984 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

give me a break.

Europoor is not doing anything. If your lack of AI progress is caused by regulations and respect for IP laws, how about EVs, robotics, drones, batteries, quantum computing. Also slowed down by your over regulations? LOL.

Europoor is called Europoor for a reason, your attitude here is the best explanation on how it happened.

OKRainbowKid 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You seem to be confusing Hacker News with 4chan.