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MarkusWandel 5 hours ago

You have to view all cloud storage - all free cloud storage anyway - as ephemeral. If you want your childhood pictures to survive, store them someplace you have control over.

lutr 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To be fair I'm doing that now, with Immich (= a "self-hosted Google Photos"). I was just curious to find out what things I was screnshotting as a kid.

beaker52 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I resent comments like this. It’s captain obvious and nothing to do with the actual point being made by the author, and subtly justifies the author ending up in a disadvantaged position.

“if you didn’t want your computer data to disappear, you should have used paper” gee, I didn’t think of that, I’m glad I had someone to point it out, said no-one, ever.

sneak 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

People uploaded photos to Photobucket 20 years ago, before anyone knew this. This smug take is not the least bit helpful in this instance.

mindslight 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Many knew this 20 years ago, as well.

inigyou 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nobody knew it 20 years ago. SaaS was just taking off. The word "cloud" was barely a thing.

defrost 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some of us started coding and archiving data 40+ years ago, many of us were suspicious of cloud storage from the get go and have never relied on it as primary storage and still keep multiple location physical backups regional and under direct control of stakeholders.

inigyou 3 hours ago | parent [-]

So you didn't know it either, you just guessed differently from other people's guesses.

mindslight an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

AJAX was 1999. Ruby on rails was 2004. The hazards of having your application experience and data subject to the whims of whomever controlled the server were glaringly apparent when your friend showed you a site they built and then tinkered with the data behind the scenes. It was straightforward to extrapolate that dynamic to businesses that had little plan besides grow their number of users at all costs, at least for those not in denial about the incentives of market actors.

sneak 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Many? I was on the internet and well connected to many hackers starting 30 years ago. I’m an expert on early internet and hacker culture.

You’re incorrect.

mindslight 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Wow. Thanks for that "expert" correction!

I was there, too. These dynamics were eminently foreseeable.

I do agree that the smug take here is overall unhelpful for someone who was young at the time, and is now even using a self-hosted solution. It's also fine to say that you personally weren't concerned, were distracted by the gobs of money programmers were getting paid to build centralized services, thought that the developers with ethics would hold more long term sway over companies, and so on. But don't act like it was unknowable.