Alright covers a broad spectrum of properties.

Most teachers have been asking for more resources for decades, warning of the consequences of not doing so. It seems a little on the nose to ignore their warnings and when the consequences manifest opt to blame something else entirely.

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throwaway85825 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I can't remember which state it was but they spent 2/3+ of the entire states education budget on one underperming school district. In the end they ended up with new buildings but the scores went down because school spending isn't actually correlated with student success.

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pj_mukh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is not about resources anymore.

What’s especially interesting is that a lot of teachers take a paycut [1] to go teach in private school partly because the kids are better adjusted, rich kids have more comprehensive childcare and don’t need to rely on screens/social media for the gaps in parenting.

For a taste of all these details, go on r/Teachers

[1]: https://www.ccu.edu/blogs/cags/2011/12/teaching-in-private-s...

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Lerc 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I encountered something just the other day that mentioned r/Teachers. I can't remember what it was exactly, but there was definitely a huge caveat about it not being a representative sample.

There is correlation between socioeconomic status and academic performance, but it is not the be-all-and-end-all. Schools serving lower socioeconomic populations should have vastly higher resources to address the additional challenges. One of those resources, is the number of teachers.

A teacher taking a paycut for a different job is not because they want less money, it is because the ratio of what they are paid to the work that is asked of them is better in the lower paid job. That is exactly a resource issue. If you pay a teacher 20% more and ask them to do a job that takes two teachers, then it is unsurprising that they will go for a job that more reasonably asks of them proportional to what they are paid.

	▲	pj_mukh 26 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The problem is, a classroom full of TikTok zombies doesn’t fit into the 20% more work vs. 80% more work dichotomy. It’s simply spending 40 hours a week talking to an (almost literal) wall. It’s money sure, and some teachers who don’t care can keep going. But most who do, would be happy to switch to a place where they can make a difference. This is all a separate conversation to school resources is my point.

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kian 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It doesn't seem like there's been a precipitous drop in resources compared to the decades of requests and warnings that have led up to this point. So what's different now, if not resourcing?

	▲	throwaway85825 4 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Resources have never been higher. Theres an expectation now that the schools will do everything and pay for everything but its never enough.
	▲	Lerc 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I'm not sure which precipitous less than a decade drop you are referring to, but I would be inclined to think, in the last decade, a period of social isolation and absence of education might have been a factor.