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paul7986 7 hours ago

Actually i think AI will make the web the backbone of humanity once a system is in place that gets all humans paid for our daily content (conversations, pics, videos, songs, movies, etc). All of us create content daily via living. The web now is a system that all of humanity owns and its not controlled by one company or organization. It can be a place where every human publishes our daily content to our own websites for AI to pay us to access it and feed off of it.

I see Trump saying he's going to be talking to AI companies about them providing Americans with stock. That's one way AI pays us and this other idea I mention above and wrote about on my Substack https://ryanspahn.substack.com/p/ai-to-pay-for-all-americans...

nancyminusone 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

yeah, but they won't be paying you. Not today, not ever. That's a pretty fundamental premise of the whole AI phenomenon.

paul7986 an hour ago | parent [-]

So we as humanity should let AI destroy the money economy / society we have built over centuries for a handful of billionares or we should demand that AI pays us for thriving off our content?

Your comment says I dont care let it destroy society there's nothing we can do. But there is we can think of ideas and deploy such to ensure humanity thrives as AI does too.

RajT88 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> once a system is in place that gets all humans paid for our daily content (conversations, pics, videos, songs, movies, etc).

That is never going to happen, lol. That's what Youtube was supposed to be, and the trend is to pay content creators less and less, while keeping them creating the same amount of content.

> It can be a place where every human publishes our daily content to our own websites for AI to pay us to access it and feed off of it.

Social media will still exist. People will want to share content with each other, and it has to live somewhere. Sure, a lot of the interactions with LLM's will go back into the training data, that's already happening. But people aren't going to stop publishing content - because what happens then when there's no more training data out there?

You can't train an AI model without updated repositories of information. There is a bit of a question on whether an AI agent should be the interface for those repositories. Today, that's a very expensive proposition, and probably a silly direction to go (at some point, cheaper ways of doing things are going to win out for some use cases).

> I see Trump saying he's going to be talking to AI companies about them providing Americans with stock.

And this is proof positive why it's a bad idea that will never gain traction.

cdrnsf 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The only Americans likely to be furnished with stock have the same last name as the president.

1shooner 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That is a very... optimistic interpretation of what Trump is describing in your link.

paul7986 an hour ago | parent [-]

ah two different concepts which i outline my idea of AI paying all of us for our content. What Trump is talking about is a different concept where all Americans get free stock in AI companies. Both my idea and that one gets us paid for our content that AI needs in order to thrive.

I say AI needs to provide both concepts and any others that gets us paid for our content / making it thrive!

fred_is_fred 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The US President has no legal means to give every American stock - and even if he did, then what? What good is my 1 share of OpenAI going to do me?

icepush 3 hours ago | parent [-]

In a long enough timescale it's easy to imagine one company run by an advanced AI driving all other companies out of business. Since it has no expenses, all profits are paid out as dividends, creating a kind of UBI where the number of shares you own determines your income. This has been discussed as an economic model by people who want advanced AI but don't want to get rid of public markets and shareholders.

paul7986 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Or maybe how much content you contribute to it