| ▲ | nine_k 4 hours ago |
| Truth be told, the Meta engineering organization created PyTorch and React. I won't color any large entity uniformly bad at all times and aspects. |
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > the Meta engineering organization created PyTorch and React People created PyTorch and React, they happen to be working at Meta at the time. Maybe it's unlikely they'd create those working elsewhere, but I think it's much more unlikely that someone else at Meta would have created the same thing without those people there. |
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| ▲ | pcan77 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Totally agree. And who cares, the internet, computers and web apps worked before and will work after those go away. It's not like React is some irreplaceable genius invention, it's just a framework like Ember, Angular, etc etc. The people who made them are no doubt amazing, but what I'm saying is we're not "in debt" to Meta for these tools at all. | |
| ▲ | nine_k 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > People created PyTorch and React, they happen to be working at Meta at the time. Exactly. The fact that they worked on Meta's (then Facebook's) payroll does not make what they've done, or themselves, automatically as bad as some other things some other people at Facebook / Meta did. And the bad things that some people did at Facebook / Meta are also due to their own choices, not by the virtue / sin of working for a particular org. | | |
| ▲ | embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The fact that they worked on Meta's (then Facebook's) payroll does not make what they've done, or themselves, automatically as bad as some other things some other people at Facebook / Meta did. I kind of disagree. You're associating yourself with these people, supporting the same machine. If you actually disagree with the machine, then don't work there in the first place. Not to mean these people are inherently evil or whatever, people have different circumstances, people reflect, sometimes change and people don't always think before acting, it's only human. But everyone who worked there while having other opportunities available, because the pay was better or whatever, definitively should reflect on what imprint they want to leave on the world really. |
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| ▲ | gulugawa 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree that Meta is not uniformly bad, but I would not consider React to be a great tool. Every React project I worked on has turned into an unmaintainable pile of spaghetti. |
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| ▲ | not_a_bot_4sho 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was going to say, isn't React something to hold against Meta? Being intimately familiar with it, I don't consider it a positive contribution to the world. |
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| ▲ | callmeal 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >I won't color any large entity uniformly bad at all times and aspects. Oh yes, I would color Meta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_emotional_manipulatio... "Company over country!" -- Mark Zuckerberg
https://www.yahoo.com/news/book-zuckerberg-called-company-ov... |
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| ▲ | davidw 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Organizations that are overall bad can have people who have done some good things, or at least technically impressive things. |
