I've held a short list of organizations I wouldn't ever work for, for a long while. Meta is on that list, but so are most of the big tech companies you see in the various anagrams.

It's getting to the point where selling my soul to the highest bidder is going to be absolutely required for any big tech job going forward.

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ryandrake an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I started doing this, but so many companies are bad that it's pretty career-limiting. Ultimately every company is, or one day will be, solely focused on "maximize shareholder value forever" as their one and only imperative. You just have to find the least bad ones.

	▲	freejazz an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Meta's problem isn't that they "maximize shareholder value" it's how they decided to go about doing it.
	▲	throwaway894345 an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I would love to learn if people have structured approaches for identifying companies that are in that "least bad" band, but yeah, I agree that as long as we have a system based on extreme wealth inequality, it's going to be pretty difficult to find moral work. At the end of the day most of us are working to make billionaires richer--in the best case we do that by genuinely creating value, but frequently it's about taking money away from some middle or lower class person (however indirectly).

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everdrive an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>It's getting to the point where selling my soul to the highest bidder is going to be absolutely required for any big tech job going forward.

Can you expand on this? Aren't there plenty of "not-amazing-but-definitely-not-evil" organizations out there which need talented engineers?

	▲	HelloNurse a minute ago \| parent [-]
		The "amazing" organizations seem amazingly evil.

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throwaway894345 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

A company's impact on the world isn't a good/bad binary, it comes in degrees. In the case of Meta, they are _aggressively_ promoting far-right wing propaganda (or at least that's my feed, and what appears to be the general consensus on the Internet), and they are clearly very close with the far-right Trump administration. Never mind "ordinary" bad things like pushing ads, building addictive ad tech, etc.

	▲	pesus 24 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Also notable that they willingly and knowingly allowed FB to be used to facilitate genocide, which makes them culpable in it.
	▲	ModernMech 32 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Right, in the tech world it’s a continuum between “do no evil (fingers crossed behind back)” and “They trust me. Dumb fucks”
	▲	tetromino_ 37 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> they are _aggressively_ promoting far-right wing propaganda In my feed, they are aggressively pushing an approximately equal mix of woke propaganda, far-right propaganda, funny memes, and discussions of literature and philosophy. It just depends on what the Meta model decided you and your friends are into.