| ▲ | swiftcoder 6 hours ago |
| > A French engineer who lives quietly in Paris has spent 30 years writing software that the entire internet now runs on without knowing his name. ... do tech people really not know who Fabrice Bellard is? He's kind of a household name in a lot of programming circles |
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| ▲ | edarchis 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I'll be honest. I discovered him with this post. And I studied in France. I am also familiar with his projects, the obfuscated C code contest and more. Just don't remember seeing his name. I guess that if people aren't loud on social media, people tend to ignore them. Respect to those who posted their praise of someone else on social media. We need more of this. |
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| ▲ | mihaic 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think I've known about him for 20 years right now, ever since I discovered his code to compute pi to an ungodly amount of digits. The man sure was prolific. |
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| ▲ | keyle 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've been around for a long time and I know of him. Most people don't bother looking up where stuff comes from. |
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| ▲ | pantulis 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| He's a lifelong familiar name since the LZEXE days. |
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| ▲ | _zoltan_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| no, most people wouldn't know. you're in an echo chamber if you think he is well known. |
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| ▲ | theshrike79 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have an explicit rule not to meet or look up my heroes. Been burned way too many times. I don't need to know who is building VLC, curl, ffmpeg or any of the other essentials in my life. I just appreciate their work and pitch in some money if possible. |
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| ▲ | t-3 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you don't put them on a pedestal, you won't ever be crushed when they can't stay on top of it. Appreciating people and the results of people's work doesn't require worship. People don't have to be perfect or even good to make good things. Coming to terms with this and being able to take people as they are instead of how you want them to be is just another part of growing up and leaving behind childish attachments. | |
| ▲ | swiftcoder 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I have an explicit rule not to meet or look up my heroes. Been burned way too many times. I mean, don't put them on a pedestal, but meeting them can still be fun. Carmack may have developed some really unfortunate rich-guy political views, but it was nice to get to go to Dallas to meet him. | |
| ▲ | bonzini 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You'd be fine with Daniel Stenberg. :) | | |
| ▲ | theshrike79 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | There are multiple people I'm fine with in software circles - Daniel being one of them, but then we have Notch and DHH who used to be cool, but some of their current hot takes are kinda oof. Specifically way too many authors whose books I've loved have turned out to be not very good human beings. David Eddings and Neil Gaiman are pretty good examples of this. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Rowling / Harry Potter comes to mind, too, and Heinlein. You need to be able to separate the artist from the art, the programmer from the program. It’s ok to appreciate a work even if you disagree with its creator’s morals or ethics. |
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| ▲ | konart 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| First time hearing the name too. >programming circles Well, not all tech people are part of some curcles I guess. |
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| ▲ | ErroneousBosh 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| And you can just email him. He's just this guy, that writes stuff, and likes to help answer questions about it. |
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| ▲ | RicoElectrico 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The HN bubble surfaces mainly those programmers who are either - active in the startup/VC scene - "indie hackers" - chasing platonic elegance with functional languages (for which the world at large doesn't care) - rewriting everything in Rust Fabrice doesn't seems to firmly fit any of this. |
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| ▲ | pdpi 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Tech people" aren't one single homogeneous mass. His name is unlikely to show up in the same conversation as, say, DHH. |
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| ▲ | defrost 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's understood in the comment which explicitly indicates that there are many programming circles and that Bellard is known in a number of them (but not all). eg: I grew up in the Australian Kimberley region (kind of remote), spent decades in geophysical mapping, multi channel data processing, computational algebra, and other odd niches, have no real interest in SV, and am quite familiar with Bellard's work. No idea who DHH is though. | | | |
| ▲ | jdsnape 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I knew of Fabrice, and have admired him for many years…but who is DHH? | | |
| ▲ | Bigpet 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you did "web stuff" in the early 2000s (like 2005-2010). You'd probably know who he is. He did Ruby on Rails, a backend web framework. But that was also very Start-up and America focussed. So if you did web dev in some other country and didn't have colleagues who were into that culture you still might've missed the name. | | |
| ▲ | hdgvhicv 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Ru y was something that one guy tinkered with briefly. It was less used than Perl. Java and php was what tools were built in at my company. | |
| ▲ | konart 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | TBH the biggest difference is him being more vocal. I'm pretty sure most of the people who did "web stuff" at the time and used twitter (key point maybe) know him simply because you'd often see his tweets. Regardless of coutry (I'm from Russia, for exampl) | |
| ▲ | ErroneousBosh 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There was a big RoR scene in Glasgow in the mid-2000s, but there were a few of us that were resolutely Django. I stand by that decision, for various reasons. Not least being that "Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby" gave me the ick. |
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| ▲ | lproven an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Heinemeier_Hansson | |
| ▲ | swiftcoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | To be fair, I don't think anyone outside the Ruby community knew who DHH was until his politics went viral on twitter | |
| ▲ | konart 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ruby on Rails creator (among other things). | |
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| ▲ | noufalibrahim 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DHH markets himself much better. His company (basecamp), in a sense, revolves around his public persona and he's unapologetic about this. It's the same with all of his projects (e.g. Omarchy recently). | |
| ▲ | otabdeveloper4 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, same. |
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| ▲ | _zoltan_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DHH is even less known, don't kid yourself. | | | |
| ▲ | hdgvhicv 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What is a DHH? A person? | | |
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