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hypfer 2 hours ago

Reminds me of all of those ethics debates back when fully self driving cars were basically already here ca 10 years ago.

The ones talking about how hard it would be to chose which person to run over.

Additionally, I find it hard to believe that this would be a case of the future just not being distributed evenly.

But sure. The AI labs relying on hype stating 15-50% risk of building a magic entity is certainly a reliable number.

nopinsight 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Things in the real world often take longer than expected. Still, in cities where Waymo operates, many people routinely ride autonomous vehicles and prefer them.

For software, however, a rapid turn is often a possibility. See: AI for coding over the last 3-4 years.

AI autocomplete --> AI coding assistants --> vibe coding --> agent orchestration

Coders can now accomplish work that used to take a week or longer in a couple of hours, with the right tools and skills.

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A key issue the article implies is that the real world increasingly runs on software.

RandomLensman 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

But there is also still a huge part that doesn't run on software with so far little change.

nopinsight 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

With incessant advances in robotics, how long would that continue to be the case?

Should we start preparing for something that could be world-changing in the next 10-20 years?

RandomLensman 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

For how the world might change in 10-20? I'd say no need to prepare, too many hypotheticals.

nopinsight 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

"Ten years from now, I think we will realize that we were standing in the foothills of the singularity now... I believe that we're only a few years away from [AGI], maybe 2030 plus or minus a year...

I think [AGI] will be an enormous transformative technology, it's going to effectively be a new human era...

We can feel this year, I would say, even though I've been working towards this for 30 years, I think this year with the way the agents are working and tool use, it started to become really useful, still early days of it, but genuinely useful in people's workflows...

And it's not any one thing, it's several different technologies, several use cases, several things that I thought were maybe a bit further out, turned out to be now, that are coming together that make me feel that in aggregate.

I think society needs to hear that because we don't have long to prepare for what that means." -- Demi Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind & Nobel laureate

https://x.com/deredleritt3r/status/2062223035940139253

RandomLensman 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Certainly a well reasoned view, but I don't necessarily have to agree.

Even assuming the technological predictions to be correct, still not sure I agree on the need to "prepare" as how things work out in societies and economies might not be so easy to predict.

watwut 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Things in the real world often take longer than expected.

Things in the real world often take longer than hype con men claim.

nikanj 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have had my license for over 20 years and to this day have not encountered a single event where I had to decide who to kill

bandrami an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, I'm very much tech-forward and have spent the past decade in major world cities and I've seen a driverless car once in my life. Sometimes things that seem inevitable really aren't.

JuniperMesos an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I see driverless cars all the time in San Francisco and I'm eagerly awaiting the regulatory decisions that will allow them to be widely available in the bay area at large.

bandrami 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes and people have been eagerly awaiting the broader adoption of this allegedly inevitable technology for a decade now, which is exactly my point

esailija 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are not actually driverless, they have remote human operators for the edge cases.

weregiraffe 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not driverless until you can sleep while it drives.

chii 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Such cars are already operating in shanghai. It's not talked about much in the west media, but that's just how news is today. Achievements are only so when done by the west!

Driverless car's only real obstacle is regulatory acceptance, not technical.

silon42 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Car needs to drive me to work and then go back home to charge.

IanCal 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can’t you? They’re taxis right?

myst 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Until you can sleep on the road.

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