| ▲ | joxdosba 10 hours ago |
| What is congress going to do? Say “never negotiate with the US”? It’s not like congress can very feasibly reject this deal in the end, Iran would just extort the gulf countries and it’d be even harder to sell an intervention. |
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| ▲ | 3eb7988a1663 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Iran has been bombed at least twice during negotiations. Surely there is some skepticism that the US will not keep the deal. There is no winning move -which is why this never should have been started. Congress absolutely can and should reject the deal. I thought we were worried about the deficit? Or is that just when the next guy is in charge? |
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| ▲ | joxdosba 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If the congress rejects this deal, it cripples the US ability to negotiate in the future and essentially just forces an unconditional US surrender as nobody has appetite for a ground invasion of Iran. Congress can only sabotage deals like this at an immense cost to the US’s future ability to negotiate anything with anyone, and it certainly can’t sabotage it’s way into a more favourable deal. | | |
| ▲ | jusssi 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think you're underestimating both the amount of damage Trump has already done for the future ability to negotiate, and the desire of everyone else to be not bombed by the US. Everyone already knows, any deal with the US does not bind the US, only the other party. But it still might be preferrable to the alternative of no deal at all. |
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| ▲ | brewdad 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Congress will find a way to make sure this money is paid out in 2029. Then they will blame Democrats for the hole in the budget and our stupid electorate will believe them. It’s been this way for almost my entire life and I’ll be collecting SS soon. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Say “never negotiate with the US”? The way Tom Cotton did to Iran over Obama? And then Trump did when he tore up the JCPOA? America has straight up broken treaties before. Most countries have. You negotiate with who you have at the table in geopolitics. Diplomats who refuse to negotiate with someone have short, useless careers. |
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| ▲ | nixon_why69 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The article says "funded by the gulf coast coalition" so it doesn't sound like they're planning on asking Congress. No way congress passes that appropriation. They wouldn't pass the first JCPOA which is why Trump could shred it so easily. |
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| ▲ | joxdosba 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | >No way congress passes that appropriation No way congress passes an appropriation you just invented, which even the most optimistic Iranian propagandists are not claiming to be happening? I mean yeah. Most random things you can come up with are likely to be things that congress will never pass. | | |
| ▲ | nixon_why69 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Who invented? It's the headline of the article, attributed to Vance. Yes, there's been a lot of conflicting messaging about it. | | |
| ▲ | joxdosba 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s the Trump admin signature big number that goes on all documents, not a reference to real money that exists or is genuinely expected to exist. | | |
| ▲ | nixon_why69 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure, I'm just saying congress wouldn't fund that if asked. | | |
| ▲ | joxdosba 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Of course they wouldn’t, the admin is claiming the seemingly non-existent ”gulf coast coalition” will fund it. |
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