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halestock 3 hours ago

Because it's pretty evident that all these data centers are primarily intended to eliminate jobs and make more trillionaires and destroy democracy, and the positive stuff (like solving unsolved math problems) doesn't remotely justify that.

youre-wrong3 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is the low quality type of comment I’ve come to expect from HN.

chinathrow 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Can you proof them wrong?

tengbretson 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everyone on this site has been cashing checks building the job eating machine for years. The concern is only pouring out now that it may not need us anymore.

baq an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If they also solve fusion, famine, climate disaster, cancer, dementia and child development disorders it isn’t as clear cut

hibikir an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Once you start from destroying democracy, the chances that the results will quickly put keeping the owner in power ahead of anything good for humanity are high. Autocracies are, in practice, inefficient messes that put loyalty ahead of competency, so one cannot really get prosperity in exchange for no representation. The loss of representation will get us the loss of prosperity real quick.

This also applies within companies. You can get temporary lucky with a CEO that isn't accountable to anyone, but then that brings sycophancy, leading to degraded decisions. It's how it always works.

So it's very clear cut, because you are offering a trade that cannot actually happen in practice. The economic growth will turn into zero sum status games, like it always has.

msy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do they? There's been a lot of hot air, quite literally, but aside from some math conjectures actual evidence of meaningful progress on anything that actually helps humanity seems rather thin on the ground.

themafia an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The word happiness, fulfillment or even freedom didn't come to mind?

Well at least you're planning to have a very healthy population of enslaved serfs. I'm sure they'll appreciate all you've done for them.

fooster 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The number of doomers and luddites with extremely hyperbolic views on a site for tech entrepreneurs is wild.

jkwn 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You have no frame of reference, Donny.

I'm guessing you have no conception of what the world used to be like before 9/11. Back then, the news was reported, and people got outraged at things. Sure, there was injustice then too, and all wars are a racket, but there were still standards of morals.

Today, you have a level of corruption in all things that is beyond the imagination, out in the open; and it is out in the open because the powers that be have been using technology to silence dissent and cancel everyone who speaks out against it.

Those with eyes to see see very clearly where the times are headed; it's a cross between 1984, Minority Report, the Hunger Games, and Back to the Future 2, and the Terminator series. If you don't see it coming, don't know what to tell ya. It's already here, but you don't see it in your feed by design.

What's wild is how long it took for HN to wake up. You're the straggler.

tengbretson 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You have to admit-- it is interesting that all of this media, that was made during a time when there were standards and morals, has painted such a clear picture of what you now expect life to be like.

Jare 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's speculative fiction after all.

jkwn an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It's easy to understand once you understand the power structures at play.

The US was founded on Christian principles. Even the chief author of the constitution separated church and state for the express purpose of spreading the gospels of Jesus. There is the source of morality.

And then since the mid 20th century this stronghold of morality was by the hidden architects of human affairs allowed to diminish by the corruption of the monetary system. The constitution only allows for the federal government to mint silver and gold coins, but over a series of events (starting with the sinking of the Titanic, believe it or not) the power to print money became centralized and co-opted by the global banking elites, and now everything that gets in the way is either purchased or neutralized.

Some of the media I cited like 1984 or the Terminator series were as a warning by moral men. It's not surprising that we failed to heed these warnings against the god of money, at least temporarily. Others like Back to the Future 2 (Biff == Trump), or the Simpsons, are predictive programming leaks from mortal architects.

What's more surprising to me is the myopic greed of those who choose the dark side willingly despite the forewarned consequences as if all of this wasn't already written about by higher powers, heavenly and earthly. We're living in biblical times whether you agree with it or not. They've been planning for global depopulation since the 60's w/ the World3 simulator. We just lived through the man-made pandemic from the Wuhan lab ala EcoHealth funded by Fauci, and I'm guessing it'll never bother most readers here that he's still not in jail because y'all neither have the attention span nor resources to learn the truth anymore because you keep scrolling censored sources.

Which reminds me... Utopia (the UK version), more predictive programming. It's just two seasons, I suggest everyone watch it to get a sense of what I mean by predictive programming. In one scene you'll even find the masonic square and compass. In the US version they even added Bill Gates as a character, just to hammer it home.

budududuroiu 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not an AI booster, nor an AI detractor. I like tech and progress. I'm mortified at the possibility of a data centre being built next to me at some point in the future [1].

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bP80DEAbuo

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King-Aaron an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Luddites were not against the advent of new technology. They were against capitalists using new technology as an excuse to cut skilled labour and not offer any avenue for reskilling etc.

Which is what's happening again.

mukmuk 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The number of realists on this site is encouraging.