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msla 2 hours ago

> Note that I don't necessarily agree with the subject matter of these titles

Y'know, there's really only one reason to be coy about whether you agree with Neo-Nazi propaganda.

tinfoilhatter 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

As if Neo-Nazis were and are the only people capable of authoring propaganda. The Bolsheviks certainly were good at it, yet we don't learn about the 23+ million they massacred in US schools. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the second largest publisher of textbooks in the US (McGraw Hill) was co-founded by Ghislane Maxwell's Mossad agent father Robert? One can and should question the prevailing narrative when it comes to historical record. After all, the victors get to write it, and there are two sides to every story. You don't have to agree with Neo-Nazi propaganda to acknowledge that what we are taught about WWII and Weimar Germany in school, isn't the truth either.

girvo 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> You don't have to agree with Neo-Nazi propaganda to acknowledge that what we are taught about WWII and Weimar Germany in school, isn't the truth either.

Go on then.

Say what you mean.

tinfoilhatter 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

I just said what I meant - what we are taught about WWII and Weimar Germany in school isn't anything approaching the truth. For example: https://www.archives.gov/research/foreign-policy/katyn-massa...

girvo 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don’t know what school you went to, but mine covered war crimes committed by the Allies plenty.

That doesn’t mean Nazi Germany wasn’t utterly disgusting though.

margalabargala 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> As if Neo-Nazis were and are the only people capable of authoring propaganda

Of course they aren't. But that's no argument for distributing it.

tinfoilhatter 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, the argument for distributing it would be that other propaganda is widely distributed without question, so if one wants to arrive at anything even close to an objective account of what transpired during that time in history, all propaganda should be examined and learned about. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle, and we certainly aren't getting to it by blindly accepting one narrative over another.

msla 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Someone named tinfoilhatter replied but that's gone now. Not one to let a response go to waste:

Well. I seem to have triggered something.

> Ah yes, because the only people that have ever spread propaganda are Neo-Nazis

Not something I ever said or implied.

> and we should only ever learn about the sanitized and approved version of history from our Robert Maxwell (Ghislane Maxwell's Mossad agent father / McGraw Hill co-founder) published textbooks.

I find it interesting who just happens to know who else is Jewish, and then feels the need to interject that into utterly irrelevant contexts.

> Never mind that there are two sides to every story, and when it comes to history, only the victors get to tell theirs.

No, I'm pretty sure a lot of losers have been able to have their sides heard. It's just that, well, people lose for a reason, and losers tend to be less popular among normal people. Ranting about subhumans can do that, you know.

> We don't even learn about the 23+ million massacred by the Bolsheviks in school.

I would be interested to know who exactly you call a Bolshevik, but I did get taught the history of the USSR in school, at least, and "One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich" is not a ringing endorsement.

However, nobody was talking about Bolsheviks until you decided to use them as a distraction.

> But yeah - only one reason to consider a different perspective other than the one forced down your throat by the public education system.

I didn't need the public education system to teach me to hate genocidal racists, thank you.

tinfoilhatter 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

I deleted and rewrote my comment above, but since you decided to go through this effort I will offer my reply:

> Not something I ever said or implied.

No but you said there was only a single reason to agree with "Neo-Nazi" propaganda as if agreeing with any propaganda is rational. There's a reason it's called propaganda after all. It's not like there weren't deplorable crimes being committed by the Soviets / US / France / Britain and they certainly had their fair share of propaganda during WWI and WWII depicting Germans as barbarians / sub-human / etc...

> I find it interesting who just happens to know who else is Jewish, and then feels the need to interject that into utterly irrelevant contexts.

How is the owner of the second largest publisher of textbooks in the US, and the fact that he served in a Zionist intelligence organization in the US, irrelevant when it comes to what people learn about WWII and propaganda? Please explain.

> No, I'm pretty sure a lot of losers have been able to have their sides heard. It's just that, well, people lose for a reason, and losers tend to be less popular among normal people. Ranting about subhumans can do that, you know.

I've already addressed this above.

> I would be interested to know who exactly you call a Bolshevik, but I did get taught the history of the USSR in school, at least, and "One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich" is not a ringing endorsement.

Are you disputing the well-recorded fact that tens of millions of innocents were killed by the Bolsheviks over the span of about 40 years? Why don't we learn about the Holodomor in the US in grade school? I don't need to explain who the Bolsheviks were - anyone who doesn't already know, can perform a basic internet search to figure that out.

> However, nobody was talking about Bolsheviks until you decided to use them as a distraction.

A distraction? How is me pointing out that history isn't objective and that there are two sides to every story, yet we only learn about one, a distraction? It's highly relevant to the conversation and the GP's post.

> I didn't need the public education system to teach me to hate genocidal racists, thank you.

I never said you did - but if it were me, I'd want to make sure I considered both sides of a historical event before deciding which direction to aim my hatred, if I was into such endeavors. I personally believe that war is a racket, and that there are no good guys in evil and corrupt wars (WWII was definitely one of those, same with WWI). I'm also not naive enough to believe that there wasn't atrocious behavior on both sides of either war. Nor am I going to label anyone who has the gall to question the prevailing narrative or say it is incorrect in some capacity, a Neo-Nazi.

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