I think everyone who is able should earn their keep. From ants to lions, to survive and live, even if in meager spurts they must put in some work.

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supertroop an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In all likelihood you will end up more like a Syrian refugee than mr outdoor survivor manly man.

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dyauspitr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well yes, that how it has always been. But if robots do the labor we don’t have to abide by that nonsense anymore. It’s a paradigm shift.

I realize we’re probably not going to see it in our lifetimes but that will be the norm in the future.

Also that extremely ingrained mindset of earning your keep is exactly what keeps most of the world working hard while the elite jetset and live a life of pleasure.

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BobbyTables2 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

More than a mindset, it also takes quite a bit of money to live in a permanent vacation 24/7, even modestly.

Aside from the income, employment also has a way of occupying one’s time. Without that, one would often spend additional funds on various forms of entertainment (books, movies, crafts, travel, etc.)…

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mc32 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

Without direction or a pull in life people tend to self-destruct. Even the wealthy are susceptible to this. Hollywood nepotites are a nice example: they live off their parents wealth or easily acquired money and self-destroy themselves. They are not engaging in higher pursuits but rather basic degeneration. Not all of course; some do good, productive things.

	▲	JackMorgan 8 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It's easy to point to high profile nepotites but I've known plenty of folks from all classes who have self-destructed. It's hardly limited to those with lives of leisure.

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sosomoxie 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Only if wealth will be evenly distributed, otherwise you're just enriching someone else.

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bluefirebrand 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Would you accept "fairly" distributed instead of "evenly"?

I think it's fair to say that some jobs do actually deserve to be compensated more highly? Jobs that require special skills and training, or require taking on more responsibility?

I don't think the problem is that some work earns different amounts of money. To me it seems that the problem is how much wealth is concentrating in such few hands, because the people doing the work are not being compensated fairly

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maest 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"fair" involves a value judgement and requires a moral system. "even" is pure mathematics.

> I think it's fair to say that some jobs do actually deserve to be compensated more highly?

Agreeing with that is easy. Agreeing with which jobs should be compensated more highly is hard. Because everyone has different morality systems.

> To me it seems that the problem is how much wealth is concentrating in such few hands

I know people who strongly believe Bezos and other billionaires are being <fairly> compensated for the value they've brought to their customers via their businesses.

	▲	mc32 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Fairness can also be mathematical. Fair chances. No special treatment.

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sosomoxie 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I would prefer "evenly" but "fairly" would be better than what we have now. If AI and robots are going to make infinite progress and replace all labor, then I definitely would want "evenly".