There's no population or fertility crisis. The world's population isn't going to fall, it'll level off around 2100, nobody old enough to read this will be around, our kids and grandkids can decide for themselves.

Local populations will see very different trajectories, yes. Africa will see population growth and many other places will see steep decline. Societies can choose to keep their current system and take in immigrants, or choose to keep their "national character" (or whatever) and rejig their societies so the remaining productive parts pay for increasing numbers of old people. Grifters (Brexiters, MAGA, Le Pen, etc) will attempt to sidestep such obvious tradeoffs, but they will fail, hastening the decline of these societies. So the only crisis we have is people refusing to deal with reality's tradeoffs.

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bryanlarsen 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The UN estimate is that population will peak in 2080, and that is widely considered to be an overestimate.

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huggert6 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Exactly, we could literally replace the entire population of Japan or Canada with Indians and it would barely make a dent in their census. Is it any less "Japan" if there are no Japanese people, or any less "Canada" if there are no European people? Personally, I don't see race (aside from the ONE human race), so of course not. Maybe we even get some kind of awesome curry sushi out of it!

	▲	TrnsltLife 16 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Let me try! Is it any less Africa if there are no more black people? Is it any less Israel if there are no more Jewish people? Wow. So many options open up when you think about it like that.

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FridayoLeary 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Happens to be the grifters are mostly pro fertility, make of that what you want.

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obelos 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They're pro-“fertility talking points” at least, but rarely in favor of economic and social policies that encourage child rearing.

	▲	JumpCrisscross an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yup. Bring up a tax to pay for prenatal, neonatal and pediatric care, for instance, and you’ll separate the folks who care about children from the ones who found a new silly thing to argue about on Twitter.
	▲	martythemaniak 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I think so too. What strikes me most about "pro fertility" people, particularly the SV type, is that they don't seem to particularly like kids, as in spending time with them, playing with them, deriving joy from them. They seem very enamoured with the kids-as-cogs-in-the-system, with "legacy" with all sorts of other silliness except for the kids as kids.