| ▲ | yandie 7 hours ago |
| I doubt that. What stops the Chinese labs from figuring it out? It’s not like these models are fundamentally different from each other |
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| ▲ | CuriouslyC 7 hours ago | parent [-] |
| If all you have is the starting point and the finishing point, the lack of the path taken from one point to another limits your ability to train models that can efficiently recreate the work, and increases its cost enough that it's possible the US labs can progress capabilities faster than Chinese labs can distill that behavior. |
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| ▲ | sealeck 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > lack of the path taken from one point to another limits your ability to train models that can efficiently recreate the work Isn’t this the problem inference (training) a model is designed to solve :))) | | |
| ▲ | jmalicki 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It is! And it's a hard problem. What's an easier form of training is being able to see the intermediate results and train to imitate them. |
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| ▲ | wahnfrieden 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That’s already the case. Chinese ingenuity allowed them to achieve what they did without access to reasoning outputs | |
| ▲ | nyrikki 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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