Free Palestine simply means a sovereign Palestinian state separate from Israel, which Israel has rejected many times over the years, most recently in the Knesset vote in February and July 2024, opposing the establishment of a Palestinian state west of the Jordan River. Any time there was outside attempts to recognize Palestine as a state (e.g. through UN efforts) Israel responded with building more settlements in the West Bank.

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kyboren 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I've come around on the idea of a Palestinian state.

Once they have a state, the Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank will finally have defined borders and a single sovereign. And history shows they can be relied upon to launch another genocidal war on Israel more or less immediately.

Then it will be a war between two nation-states, not a nation-state vs. an unaccountable terrorist organization that pretends to be a proper state when convenient.

The Israel vs. Palestine conflict will then fall neatly into the framework of Westphalian nation-states and when Israel proceeds to utterly defeat Palestine, demands their unconditional surrender, kills all who resist, annexes their territory, and forcibly re-educates any who remain (post-WWII style), it will all be 100% kosher according to customary international law.

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deaux 14 hours ago | parent [-]

> they can be relied upon to launch another genocidal war on Israel more or less immediately.

They'll certainly have learnt a lot from Israel in that respect.

	▲	kyboren 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		On Oct. 7 the Arabs in Gaza creatively used all means available to them to kill every single human in Israel that they could reach. This includes airpower, i.e. the infamous paramotor assault. If Israel learned from them and creatively used all means available to them to kill every human in Gaza that they could reach, this conflict would have been definitively resolved years ago and the accusations of genocide would actually be true. But if y'all keep spuriously accusing Israel of committing genocide when they're not, and Israel is "doing the time" anyway, they might just decide to actually "do the crime". As I said, it would certainly resolve the conflict. So good work! Keep it up! The more you repeat the lie, the more likely you are to turn it into truth.
	▲	_DeadFred_ an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Googling "Hamas Thai worker shovel" seems to indicate they were pretty ruthless and indiscriminate in their killing already Oct 7th.