| ▲ | matheusmoreira 4 hours ago |
| > Often this person is me I wrote an article that never fails to put a smile on my face every time I read it. I felt like I had finally found my own voice. Ran it through Claude and it told me to tone it down a bit, but I ignored the advice and published it anyway. The article caused people on HN to say I had issues. They weren't exactly wrong, but still. Be careful with what you publish out there. Warm reception is never guaranteed. My one consolation is the fact Bob Nystrom apparently liked it. |
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| ▲ | maplethorpe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| One time a project I made appeared at the very top of the front page. It attracted many negative comments. Some saying it was barely usable. Others saying I'd built it wrong, and offering half-baked advice on how I should have done it instead. That project later went on to get me lots of work and recognition, and even won me a few industry awards. HN posters tend to be overly critical, often tripping over themselves to demonstrate how they're smarter than the creator of whatever it is they're commenting on. In my experience, they rarely are. |
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| ▲ | matheusmoreira 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Negativity normally doesn't faze me. It's the insinuations of mental illness that hit me pretty hard. I quit the GNU bash mailing list after someone called my idea "schizophrenic", then like a year later I found out bash actually implemented a version of my library system idea. Very often I think I'm insane because of the things I think. If it was so easy, much smarter people would have done it already. Then I write the program and it actually works. | | |
| ▲ | maplethorpe an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm sorry to hear that. If it's any consolation, people often say I act like an alien pretending to be a human. Maybe it's just the price I pay for being an inquisitive person. |
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > HN posters tend to be overly critical, often tripping over themselves to demonstrate That's the helpful part though, as one of the only communities that is overly critical instead of too much on the other end of the spectrum like every other community. Criticism helps you refine and sometimes even see new perspectives, and the other chaff and useless comments you can just ignore, doesn't really matter, as your experience shows as well. Ultimately I think you get back what you put into the HN-machine. I do agree LLMs water down human writings to a extreme degree and people should just wholesale avoid them except for very surface-level copy-editing fixes, like spelling mistakes. Don't ask for their feedback how something feels or if it's "dumb" or whatever, use your own intuition. | | |
| ▲ | maplethorpe an hour ago | parent [-] | | I get where you're coming from, and I agree to some extent, but I do think our tendency to weight criticism more favorably than praise (as if praise is "chaff" and criticism is automatically valuable) can be dangerous. This negativity bias unfortunately led me to adopt less-than-optimal ways of working in my younger years, because I assumed the people offering me criticism knew what they were talking about, when this wasn't always the case. So while criticism can be valuable, I think it's worth reflecting an equally critical eye back at the person who is offering it, as upon closer inspection they may not be worth listening to at all. |
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| ▲ | mediaman 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I can't stand it when LLMs tell you to tone it down. Their writing advice is almost universally awful. They want you to write the most cliched bland content possible. Sometimes I see technical people who feel they aren't good writers, but who have good ideas. They then turn to LLMs, believing that the LLM will help them express their good ideas. They're often right that they have good ideas. But the LLM just turns them to sawdust. Kudos to spurning the mediocrity conversion machine and hitting publish. |
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| ▲ | matheusmoreira 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't know. Maybe you'll feel differently if you read my article. It's about conservative garbage collection, but I mythologized it as a story about people escaping the clutches of an orwellian surveillance machine created by technological wizards, until they learn the magical incantations required to find them. Let's just say I definitely toned it down a bit in my next article. | | |
| ▲ | areoform an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Your article, https://www.matheusmoreira.com/articles/babys-second-garbage... made me happy. :) I read this in the voice and cadence of a D&D dungeon master reciting an epic tale, The dark mages often braved the underworld themselves and were therefore undaunted by the task. It should not be difficult, they thought, to adapt the machine to do it. Why couldn't it travel the foreign lands? There was no reason. And so it was decided. The machine would be taught how to do it.
The resources available at the garbage collector's disposal were substantial. It had the object census. It had a list of roots which it would search for objects. It would reap all objects it didn't find in those roots.
One of those roots is the lisp stack. As the program churns, values are placed in stasis and stored there so that they may be recovered later when needed. It is when they escape from this stack that they create havoc in dynamic society. But where are they escaping to?
It reminded me of this ad for a video game cosmetic. It had the same brought-a-smile-to-my-face energy. :)https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K9mlJMVmEOY | |
| ▲ | mplanchard 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I just read your article, and please don’t listen to the machines!!! It’s a very fun read, and I for one love some personality in an otherwise dry topic. The thing about keeping your personality in your writing is that you will have to be prepared for it to rub some people the wrong way, even while some people (like me) like it much better: the only writing that no one dislikes is writing that no one likes, either. Anyway, fight the corporate blandness, have fun in your writing, and keep it out there! That at least is my opinion. PS if you add RSS I would gladly add your blog to my feed, based on this article. | | |
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| ▲ | bawolff 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I feel like LLMs kind of speak to making things be average. For half the population that is a step up, but for the other half that is a step down. | | |
| ▲ | mediaman 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's right that they steer toward the center of their distribution. But I would offer a different view on whether that's a step up for half the population. Writing isn't a distribution on a single dimension that goes from "bad" to "good". It's a lot of dimensions that encompass everything from "funny" to "formal", "precise" or "hysterical". They may be filled with metaphors, or use allegory; they may use math or logic to explain. The allegories could be from science fiction or they could be Biblical or 19th century Victorian novels. None of these are right or wrong, but they are opinionated ways to express an idea. Writing feels better when it has real texture and character to it. That character is not the monodistribution of "bad" to "good". It's whether it inhabits pockets of out-of-distribution thought in the thousands of dimensions of "thought-space." An LLM pushing to the center of distribution means it pushes the writing out of inhabiting any of the interesting pockets that create the feeling of texture. The middle of the distribution does not mean it is average quality: it means it's not good at all. The median of the distribution can be far worse than the median writer if you accept that the median writer has out-of-distribution thoughts on at least something, and that it is this which makes their thoughts interesting. That's why a rough, perhaps not-totally-grammatical article written by someone with interesting thoughts is vastly better than a "correct" LLM revision, even if the human writer isn't a 'good' writer. Their article occupies an opinionated stance on some dimension that matters; it sits in a pocket of interestingness that LLMs seem almost totally unable to inhabit. The exact middle of the distribution across thousands of dimensions may actually be one of the very worst places of them all. |
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| ▲ | jordwest 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Would you be willing to share it again here? I love reading these personal things - especially the things that people publish in spite of being told they're crazy. In my experience they're usually the more real, honest and raw things in a crazy world where everyone is keeping up appearances and pretending to be normal and sane |
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| ▲ | frogulis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Went looking for that article out of curiosity. For what it's worth, I think the original commenter expressed a fair opinion politely, but the "author has issues" commenter was unnecessarily unpleasant.
Neither of those should prevent you from writing how you want! |
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| ▲ | munificent 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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