| ▲ | hagbard_c 15 hours ago |
| ...and then you woke up and realised that Iran never allowed those inspectors to inspect the actually important facilities and started removing inspectors from the country in 2023 under Biden. https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/iaea-director-... |
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| ▲ | defrost 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Chronologically wrong. During the time of JCPOA (original, between Iran and the P5+1) inspectors had access to where they wanted to go (sometimes with friction, sure) and were able to place tamper resistant / tamper revealing instrumentation, air filters, and spectrometers - effectively creating a data record that could place a stochastic cap on {enrichment level, volume}. After Trump ripped up that agreement during his first term, withdrawing from the pact in 2018, that was no longer the case - leading to your linked 2023 statement. |
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| ▲ | drnick1 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | The JCPOA was a huge mistake. Even assuming that it truthfully capped enrichment and prevented the development of an atomic bomb, at the same time it enriched the nation and therefore allowed Iran to finance terrorism and ballistic missiles. | | |
| ▲ | defrost 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Even assuming It did. > at the same time it enriched the nation It returned some of that nations own money. > allowed Iran to finance terrorism and ballistic missiles. Like Russia, Israel, the UsofA, North Korea, et al ? Balance of Power is a tricky game. | | |
| ▲ | drnick1 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | My point is that we should have taken "their" money and used it against them. This is how you deal with enemies. | | |
| ▲ | kelnos 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's naive and simplistic. Your counterparty isn't going to agree to a deal if they get nothing in return. "Stop doing nuclear stuff or else" isn't a deal, it's a demand. And this fiasco proves that the US can't really do enough militarily if Iran just decides they don't want to abide by a deal/demand. Sure, this war was costly and painful for Iran, but they're coming out of it with better terms than they had before the war. |
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| ▲ | croisillon 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | and now Iran is getting fresh €250 banknotes, impressive gambit sir |
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| ▲ | acdha 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Biden was elected _after_ Trump broke the deal so it's unclear why you think that tells us anything about what would have happened had the United States honored the treaty. |