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andai 4 hours ago

Okay, but hasn't OpenAI been doing the same thing for years? They seem to be on slightly better terms though...

kordlessagain 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Consider Dario was VP of AI research and oversaw alignment and safety at OpenAI. He left in 2020. In my opinion and from direct observation, it takes time to change policy at large well funded companies, so even after he left, his influence was still being felt.

amazingamazing 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, albeit not to the dame extent

SilverElfin 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well when OpenAI did it most prominently, it was actually Dario Amodei who did it while working at OpenAI. Although you are correct that OpenAI has also pushed for safety regulations. I doubt Sam Altman is part of the effective altruism cult though - he’s more obviously looking for regulatory capture to give him moats.

The recent OpenAI post calls for mandatory safety certification of all frontier level models:

https://openai.com/index/frontier-safety-blueprint/

lazide 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

OpenAI is happy to sell their device to the gov’t to blow things up with, Anthropic tried to tell the gov’t to pound sand, no blowing things up for you.

slopinthebag 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was more like "you can use our device to blow things up you just need a human to type --dangerously-skip-permissions when they run it"

SilverElfin 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be clear, Anthropic was completely okay with their tech being used in war, including current conflicts. They just wanted a human making some decisions. The military didn’t want a vendor giving them restrictions on how to operate a tool, and since Anthropic’s restrictions could be a problem anywhere they appear among other military vendors as well, the government used the supply chain risk designation to say “this can’t be anywhere in our tools”.

ajmurmann 3 hours ago | parent [-]

After a contract had been negotiated with the exact terms that Anthropic pushed to keep in place.

SilverElfin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

We don't have the actual contracts publicly. So I bet it has terms that let the government do what it wants ultimately by naming exceptions. That way OpenAI can claim it has some controls in place while the military has the freedom it needs practically.