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mostafah 16 hours ago

I’m an Iranian in my 40s, and the regime and Western countries have been negotiating for most of my life. I remember being in high school when the first nuclear talks began, and ever since, it has been a never-ending series of talks, understandings, and plans without any real conclusion. I remember there were cases when they talked for weeks, and their main achievement was agreement on the time and place of the next negotiations. Today’s “deal” is no different. No party is releasing an official text; apparently, it’s not a real deal but a memorandum of understanding outlining a plan for further talks over the next 60 days. Another 60 days on top of the last two decades.

And all of these have only bought time and money for the regime to continue its nuclear ambitions, terrorism plans, and oppress the people of Iran, including almost daily executions of innocent protestors during the last few months as these negotiations went on.

The truth is, it won’t be possible to solve this issue with this approach. You can’t get a snake to sign a document to agree not to be poisonous anymore.

swat535 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Iranian here as well. This war was a complete disaster, US bombed our kids, our homes and killed more than 3000 people.

I’ll be the first one in line to spit on IRGC. I had my cousin sent to Evin for six months after the Mahsa uprising. She was tortured and will never live a normal life again. But I’m glad IRGC defended the land and didn’t let US and Israel turn it into another Syria.

I think that internal Iranian issues should only be dealt with from within. I’m not going to celebrate the West attempting to interfere in our affairs.

Right now half the country supports the IRGC and this war increased the number of hardliners in the “Majles”. Just look at the new IRGC commanders in charge.

If the West genuinely was interested in helping the Iranian people, they would start by taking away the sanctions that our suffocating our people.

In short, I agree with your central argument, which ironically coincides with the regime’s talking points: “dialogue with the West is useless.”

DrProtic 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Dictators are established when someone is attacking or meddling in a country, which UK and US were genuinely doing from 1950s till now in Iran.

Current government is a product of western actions in Iran.

It’s short sighted. If in 1950s they left Iran alone, the IRGC would disappear a long time ago because their strong grip would not be needed nor justified.

But every western leader wants to record a win, and constant attacks further increases the required grip of the IRGC.

Hikikomori 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

Can even go back another 100 years of Imperialist England and Russia fucking over Iran. With the current regime being a result of the 50's coup that were a result of BP/England wanting to keep most profits of oil, which they had done since early 1900s.

mostafah 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Right now half the country supports the IRGC

Where the hell did you get that number from?

newaccountman2 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

They are probably projecting the split that exists in Western countries between liberals and conservatives.

It's mostly accurate to say, e.g., that "about half the US supports Trump", though he seems hell-bent on driving that number further down lol

comrade1234 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The original Obama deal kept Iran isolated and their nuclear stockpile limited. It didn't do anything for the Iranian people and that's tragic but until trump it wasn't the west's problem. The decades of negotiations was to everyone's benefit (except the Iranian people)

Now it is the wests problem (with the strait) but even now no one is going to send an army to Iran.

I know my views are probably overly simplistic.

khuey 16 hours ago | parent [-]

I would bet considerable sums of money that this deal is also not going to do anything for the Iranian people.

sanid 16 hours ago | parent [-]

It actually does, how about not dying from US/Israeli bombs? People tend to forget there is a human cost to this and not only oil and money involved. There are 3.5k people dead in Iran many more injured. The US killed indian sailors in the last couple of days, guess the remaining ones will be happy to not live with this danger.

khuey 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's just restoring the status quo ante.

foogazi 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They were not dying from those bombs before the war