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jdw64 5 hours ago

To speak my mind without filtering, Amodei looks pretty terrible in this situation.

They've positioned their company as 'We're the serious AI company that understands safety, while others underestimate the risks.' That strategy itself is understandable. They're not like OpenAI, which carved out the pioneer position in LLMs, nor do they have a trustworthy brand like Google (Gemini isn't trustworthy, but still). So branding around 'responsibility' made sense.

The problem is that they pushed that narrative with the Trump administration. Without considering that LLM strategies need to change depending on the political context, they just input the same prompt into a different context and got bad results.

The Trump administration's stance emphasizes external enemies. I guess they didn't know what would happen if they started talking about military weapons in that environment.

We East Asians know authoritarian regimes 'very' well. So I guess people from the US, a country with so much freedom that they naturally lie flat on the ground, just didn't understand the difference.

If they had advocated for AI freedom and free expression, many people might have helped them, like in the PGP situation in cryptography. But instead, they got caught up in their own claims.

If you emphasize how dangerous AI is under an administration like Trump's that stresses external enemies, of course the government will say, 'Then let us manage it.' And the moment Anthropic says, 'Why just us?' it just looks ridiculous. They're the ones who went on about how dangerous it is, and now they're acting victimized for being treated as a dangerous entity.

To be even more honest, Amodei's style of communication sometimes looks like a morality superiority hustle.

They speak in a tone of 'We're not just a money focused company, we care about humanity,' but isn't Anthropic still a company that takes investments, sells models, rides the cloud, and tries to win government contracts? So it ends up looking like they use regulatory discourse as a shield and marketing when it benefits them, but complain 'it's not fair' when it works against them.

Personally, I think Anthropic needs to hire a Korean person as their marketing lead. We Koreans know very well how to behave under authoritarian governments. If you need a marketing person, feel free to contact me. I'll prepare my resume

slopinthebag 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well said. The funny thing is the US military uses Anthropic models for things like target selection in conflicts in the Middle East. Their marketing department is top notch however, there are people in this thread who think Anthropic is against that.

chillfox 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nobody who works at Anthropic is a good person.

Just look at any interview with Amodei, he gets super excited/happy every time he gets to talk about his tech making people unemployed.

The guy loves firing people not at his company.

Deliberately trying to cause mass poverty and starvation by firing as many people as possible and being excited about it is cartoon villain stuff.

Anyone who works at Anthropic is basically a henchman to a cartoon villain.

jdw64 5 hours ago | parent [-]

But we must not forget that the reason they are admired is that our society has rewarded people like that. Our society is fascinated by people like Amodei precisely because, despite being contradictory, we have rewarded those who make money and pull up the ladder behind them.

Also, even if a company is an evil organization, I think people can still serve that evil to make a living. Evil is easy; good is difficult. Most people, rather than being good but poor, would rather be evil but wealthy.

This is the image of an entrepreneur that our capitalist society has wanted all along, so he is simply positioning himself accordingly.