Seriously. Who tries to "win an argument" with/against AI?

It's not about the author trying to "win an argument against AI".

It's about AI turning the discussion into an argument and being compative, and it's especially about the AI doing that in later versions more so that slightly earlier models.

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SpicyLemonZest a day ago | parent [-]

He should not have the kind of relationship with an AI that would enable discussions to turn into arguments. I'm not above anthropomorphizing Claude, I accept that it's my hard working little buddy. But if he finds himself having any sort of strong emotions about what Claude believes the best continuation of a conversation is, that's a warning flag he should be concerned about.

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coldtea a day ago | parent [-]

>He should not have the kind of relationship with an AI that would enable discussions to turn into arguments.

There doesn't need to be any kind of special "relationship with AI", parasocial or whatever for discussions to turn into arguments. Regular use can turn into that just fine, and this is also what they describe.

Imaging something:

P: I want to figure out the best mortgage terms given these parameters (...).

C: Honestly, renting would be a better financial choice than buying.

P: That's not what I asked. I'm not asking whether I should rent or buy—I'm asking about mortgage options.

C: But you asked for the best option. If renting is better than buying under these circumstances, then a mortgage isn't the best option.

And so on...

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aleph_minus_one 21 hours ago | parent [-]

> P: I want to figure out the best mortgage terms given these parameters (...).

> C: Honestly, renting would be a better financial choice than buying.

> P: That's not what I asked. I'm not asking whether I should rent or buy—I'm asking about mortgage options.

> C: But you asked for the best option. If renting is better than buying under these circumstances, then a mortgage isn't the best option.

Thos rather sounds like the AI is gaslighting the user: the user asked for the best option on mortgage terms (given these parameters (...)). He never asked for the globally best option (which might also include non-mortgage options).

	▲	TylerE 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I’ve also never seen either Opus or Fable respond like that. It may offer alternatives, but it’ll always answer the question asked first.