It's not enough to build a data center these days. Or even run the government for a day these days it seems. Or are you saying salaries need to come down?

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ceejayoz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The amount it costs to build a datacenter or run the government for a day is an unimaginable level of personal wealth to virtually every person on the planet.

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hparadiz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

My own wealth now would be unimaginable to myself when I lived in the USSR. Maybe don't look at the bottom for what should be. There's never any imagination there. I know better than most.

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ceejayoz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Maybe don't look at the bottom for what should be.

The people at the top should look at the bottom for what should not be.

> My own wealth now would be unimaginable to myself when I lived in the USSR.

Good! But apparently $100M isn't enough?

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hparadiz an hour ago | parent [-]

Enough is not for you to define. Or anyone. Please internalize that. It's part of something called freedom.

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ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-]

> Enough is not for you to define. Or anyone.

You might look at history for how the "let them eat cake" approach goes.

> It's part of something called freedom.

Freedom is more complicated than you make it out to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_liberty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_liberty

One of the early things toddlers have to learn, in fact, is that their personal freedoms may be in conflict from the very legitimate freedoms of others.

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hparadiz an hour ago | parent [-]

The average person in my area makes like 250-350k between two professionals being a couple. They will have 25 peak earning years where they earn like 240k after taxes but only spend 100k so that extra 140k goes into IRA/401k, and other investments, plus discretionary spend. They have 1 million in those accounts within 10 years and 3 million by the time they are in their 50s. That 40k per year you keep citing at that point is less than 2%. None of these people will vote for higher taxes and they keep winning elections. This isn't France and you're not gonna do shit.

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ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-]

> The average person in my area makes like 250-350k between two professionals being a couple.

Even in SF that's about double reality. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocit...

> They will have 25 peak earning years where they earn like 240k after taxes but only spend 100k so that extra 140k goes into IRA/401k, and other investments, plus discretionary spend.

Talking about an extra $140k a year for decades straight to put into savings as if it's the American norm illustrates just how deeply out of touch you are here.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-28...

"Median household income was $83,730 in 2024"

> This isn't France and you're not gonna do shit.

Yeah, Louis XVI thought the same.

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hparadiz an hour ago | parent [-]

You don't understand how incomes and the census data even works. When you set aside 401k and IRA money it doesn't show up as income. It actually lowers your taxable income for that year so instead of seeing 180k earned you might instead have 150k earned. It's what the IRS calls "tax deferred" which means the money is sitting in an account you own and contributes to your net worth but it's pre-income-tax money. That means someone who has 3 million in an IRA will only show "income" on money they take out of the tax deferred account which may only be 50k in a fiscal year. Income basically tells you nothing and it's a dumb statistic to cite.

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ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-]

Someone doesn't understand it, but it's not me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United...

"A household's income can be calculated in various ways but the US Census as of 2009 measured it in the following manner: the income of every resident of that house that is over the age of 15, including pre-tax wages and salaries, along with any pre-tax personal business, investment, or other recurring sources of income, as well as any kind of governmental entitlement such as unemployment insurance, social security, disability payments or child support payments received."

> That means someone who has 3 million in an IRA will only show "income" on money they take out of the tax deferred account which may only be 50k in a fiscal year.

We're talking about putting in, not taking out.

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hparadiz an hour ago | parent [-]

No one is revolting over even 80k. It's actually funny you would even suggest it. Good luck. I am not rooting for you.

	▲	ceejayoz an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> No one is revolting over even 80k. Define median for me?