Immigrants can't vote on federal votations, dumbass.

And it takes more than a decade to have a chance at trying to get naturalized in Switzerland - a process that takes more than a year and thousands of CHF.

And naturalized immigrants have been shown to be ready to "pull the ladder behind them", even in countries where it is easier to get it (see the many interviews of Turks voting AfD in Germany or Indians voting Conservative in the UK).

Edit: FabCH concurs.

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kgwgk 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Immigrants can't vote on federal votations, dumbass. […] And naturalized immigrants

can!

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Arodex 3 hours ago | parent [-]

When do they stop being immigrants?

If you think people who waited more than a decade and paid a hefty sum to affirm their will to be citizens are second-class (or maybe even traitors!) compared to people who became citizen by making no effort and were just born that way...

	▲	kgwgk 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> When do they stop being immigrants? Never? > If you think people who waited more than a decade and paid a hefty sum to affirm their will to be citizens are second-class (or maybe even traitors!) I don't think so. Do you? (Edit: I don't object to using 'immigrant' in a different way. But when someone said that in the places with more immigration there will also be more immigrant voters it was pretty clear in what sense the word was being used. Dumbass.)