No no, they would have totally done it if the immigrants didn’t suppress the wages and the pay was %15 higher. Now they need to do some office jobs for 5 times the pay since the unemployment rate is %3. There are no Swiss sitting around and not cleaning the sewers because the pay was too low, it will have to fetch workers from other industries.

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Larrikin an hour ago | parent [-]

Immigrants do not suppress wages, business owners do.

The solution there is the same solution as the US. If the US introduced a (for example) 4x median salary fine for every year an employer employed someone not legally eligible to work the problem would fix itself. If they did not keep records assume 5 years or whenever the person's visa expired, since that is the most common case of illegal immigration.

But the businesses WANT a class of people they can underpay who can't gain access easily to legal services when the employer screws them over.

If the people are employed legally and are being paid the minimum wage, then your complaint is with the government and you should elect people that will raise the minimum wage.

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mrtksn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I agree with your argument but this particular case is for the legal workers, just like UK significant portion of the Swiss population don’t want legal workers from the rest of Europe. They attempted to limit the legal rights of the EU citizens that currently have.

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s1artibartfast an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is the best argument in the thread against allowing immigration. That sounds awful. Better to avoid by keeping them out

	▲	Larrikin 22 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Why not vote to legalize slavery again instead if you want to take the worst possible take on the argument.