| ▲ | hazkoulia 4 hours ago | |
I'm looking forward to USB-C PD small format factor PC's. A decent amount of room in the PC cases is taken up by the power supply. And if USB-C could somehow provide a range of voltages to the motherboard, SFFPC's could be downsized even more | ||
| ▲ | dotancohen 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |
The issue is that a USB charger is not a USB power supply. A charger does its best, but makes no guarantee of constant power delivery or duty cycle. The power supply absolutely must provide its rated output at 100% duty cycle. | ||
| ▲ | wongarsu an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
A lot of SFF PCs already come with a power brick. Just with a 12V barrel jack instead of a USB-C port. Compared to that design you really wouldn't safe much space. Though I admit that USB-C would be convenient. Maybe with a tiny battery | ||
| ▲ | exmadscientist 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
> And if USB-C could somehow provide a range of voltages to the motherboard, SFFPC's could be downsized even more You reeeeeeally don't want to do that. Cable inductance is a big deal, among other issues. You want the main DC-DC regulators on the board, usually right at the load, for the main loads. Most of the PSU bulk is for dealing with mains itself: handling 50/60Hz or mains isolation is just physically large. Getting in secondary 20V DC (or so) from a single connector and then regulating it down on board is pretty much the ideal solution. (I can't even begin to comprehend the horrors of a USB-PD negotiation involving multiple voltages. It's already the worst standard I've ever had to deal with.* Don't make it worse!) (* Not hyperbole, it is truly, truly awful. At least things like 60601 are bad because, you know, they're covering lots of stuff like lifesaving medical devices. USB-PD is... holy hell, it is just bad.) | ||
| ▲ | omh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
There are some SFF PCs that can take USB-C power. Lenovo have some,but sometimes require adapter cards. And a few of the Chinese N150 units will take PD power It's great for hot swapping and more portable than a laptop. | ||