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| ▲ | plandis 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I honestly find that quite hard to believe. Lack of adequate calories and nutrition negatively compound. You lose the ability to focus, you increase your medical risk. I experienced that in my childhood. It’s terrible. I did very poorly academically when I did not have access to food. It’s astonishing to me how fast my academic performance improved after consistently having access to food. Saying you would rather put yourself at risk instead of hedge your answer on a minor interview question in order to increase your chances of getting a job offer seems like an issue with prioritization. | | |
| ▲ | d_silin 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Correct. I did it anyway (and yes, it was awful). | | |
| ▲ | maxbond 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's fucked up. If those are your values, that's all well and good, but you can't expect someone else to make the same decision. Job interviews are a performance where you demonstrate you understand what professional expectations are and can abide by them. It's not dishonesty to not respond "I drink too much" when they ask "what's your biggest weakness?" just like it's not dishonesty to respond "can't complain" when someone asks "how are you today," even if you have a lot to complain about. Once I interviewed someone and they described their tax fraud scheme to me. We didn't go with that candidate. Not per se because they committed tax fraud; because they demonstrated terrible judgment. | | |
| ▲ | d_silin 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Having any kind of integrity is expensive, financially, emotionally and sometimes physically. Software development is not that high-stakes of a job anyway. There is always another interview. I got another one soon enough, where the employee AI policy fully aligned with mine, so telling the truth was an easy, pleasant experience. Imagine you are a pilot or doctor. Any kind of interview reply that doesn't fully align with your values now carries a real risk for human lives. | | |
| ▲ | maxbond 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | What I'm telling you is that it isn't an issue of integrity, and that only makes sense from a false premise - that the strictest, most blunt response is what is truest, what is being asked for, or a reflection of your alignment with the organization's values. That's really not the case. If I asked you how you were doing would you tell me about the traumas you're currently processing? Would you feel like it was a violation of your integrity if you didn't? If that's what your values are, okay, I'm not going to tell you how to live, but it would be premised on a misunderstanding of what "hi, how are you today?" means. I am not worried about what my pilot said in a job interview, I'm worried about what the check pilot thinks of their performance. Worrying about what they said in a job interview is like worrying about what they scored on the SAT. Once that hurdle is cleared, it instantly becomes irrelevant, because it was never measuring what we're actually interested in. It's a filter for people who are completely unqualified, it doesn't really measure a level of performance or alignment. | | |
| ▲ | d_silin 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Culture begins at the front door, corporate or personal. I would expect absolute sincerity from pilot or a doctor during the interview, including history of mental health and professional mistakes. Authority over lives of people must come with full transparency. If you are caught lying or misrepresenting your experience and skills, not only you would lose your job, you should be blacklisted from occupation as well. In every skill, everyone benefits from honesty, both employers and employees. But I am aware this is a minority view. | | |
| ▲ | maxbond 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Again, while I respect that that is your view of sincerity, I don't agree, and I'm not talking about lying, which is obviously inappropriate. Framing is not the same as lying (though taken to an extreme it becomes a lie of omission). There's also just a misunderstanding of what is being asked by questions like "what's your biggest weakness?" Language can be ambiguous, just because a very literal and extreme interpretation of a question exists doesn't mean that is what is being asked. I don't think we're going to bridge this gap but I also don't think that's really necessary. People have different values and it is what it is. | | |
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