| ▲ | ramon156 3 hours ago |
| Has anyone seen the news in India (that the Indian media for some reason is not covering) It was 48 C this week in some cities. The power grid was not ready for the amount of AC power needed, and it turned into blackouts. You're sitting in a dark cube that has been cooking for 12 hours, hoping something might happen. A healthy 25 year old would die in 6 hours. Even if you do not want to accept climate change is a thing, you can accept the current state of the world is affecting people. |
|
| ▲ | CalRobert 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Sooner or later we'll have a wet bulb event and many, many, many people will die. The first chapter of Ministry for the Future is plausible. https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/north-india-heatwave... for anyone curious, and that was almost a month ago. Pakistan is also very vulnerable. |
| |
|
| ▲ | zzgo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Even if you do not want to accept climate change is a thing, you can accept the current state of the world is affecting people Or you could choose option three: do neither and go on Twitter to do some political point scoring: "The Democrat Party is going to use this three day Indian heatwave (they have one every summer) and their climate hoax to open our borders back up to illegal immigration! We must stop them! Vote against the Demonrats this November! MAGA!" No point in letting a good crisis go to waste. |
| |
| ▲ | sph 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | And the Twitter campaign will find even more suckers to convince, and they will vote yet another Trump if not worse. The Internet was a mistake because it expected every person to become a paradigm of rationality, yet we are at the end of the day stupid hairless monkeys that can be easily swayed for the promise of a banana. | | |
| ▲ | bayesianbot an hour ago | parent [-] | | The mistake was not spending the first years of school teaching people to care about what is true, and also the tools for critical thinking to figure out what is real and how sure we are about it. I thought that already when I was a kid and saw that people do not care at all if their beliefs are correct, and because of that don't care about learning any critical thinking skills, but I wasn't convinced and thought maybe adults just know something I don't, but today it is clear the same problem is even worse and the most important factor to why we are so screwed up as a species | | |
| ▲ | intended an hour ago | parent [-] | | The voting populations of the world, are opposed by experts of every stripe, whose job it is to figure out how to persuade or confuse them on critical issues. Journalism has been decimated with advertising dollars moving to Google and Meta. This creates 2 camps of journalists, one who attempt to report as if the old standards hold, and others who are the media wings of political parties. Educating people is always Good. However, no education will empower individuals enough to be competitive with people whose job it is to keep them ignorant. | | |
| ▲ | bayesianbot an hour ago | parent [-] | | But you don't need to convince every voter, just give a nudge to the right direction. Also, a ton of people are falling for really easy questions, like "is human caused climate change true", there really isn't much propaganda should matter in those cases if people had the tools to find even the simplest, most clear facts. But I'm not even sure if it was possible - lots of people seem hellbent on believing what they want, I've thought that probably comes from evolution from time when we didn't really have ways to study reality that well, and group cohesion was more important than individual thinking. But we should have at least tried. It was quite clear people would get corrupted when they're sent out of school with a bag of knowledge but no real ways (or will) to really judge any future information |
|
|
|
|
|
| ▲ | solid_fuel an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Even if you do not want to accept climate change is a thing, you can accept the current state of the world is affecting people. Ignoring the current state of the world is basically a sport for American Republicans, unfortunately. There's an entire political party, a news network, social media sites, and the worlds first trillionaire all aligned around the idea that the current state of the world isn't their problem and the ideal of "fuck those other people". Pouring resources into pretending climate change doesn't exist has been a central goal of their movement. |
