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greyhound 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

German passport == German.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		To be pedantic, what is and isn’t German qua German (versus Deutsch) is a bit of a shitshow [1] to the point that one could correctly argue that Germans pee se are more Frankish than Germanic. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany

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mrkeen 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While they're at it, they should kick out the French, the Germans, the Italians, and any other immigrants refusing to speak Swiss.

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JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> refusing to speak Swiss

I know this is tongue in cheek. But one of the hallmarks of a nation of immigrants is the enforced tolerance of speaking multiple national languages. Lots of people who only speak on throws off that balance.

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rdtsc 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> While they're at it, they should kick out the French, the Germans, the Italians, and any other immigrants refusing to speak Swiss.

What's this Swiss language you speak of? I never heard of it. You must mean Romansh but that's only 0.5% of the population or so. You'd have to kick out 95.5% of the Swiss population too then?

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JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s their point. Switzerland is a nation of immigrants. We don’t tend to be portrayed as such outside. And the SVP tends to forget this. (As does the GOP.)

	▲	lovich 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Are you Swiss? I thought you were American from previous interactions.

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JumpCrisscross 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Western Europe will be a massive powder keg in 20 years

Western Europe has been a powder keg for at least three millennia. The only thing keeping a cap on it recently was American hegemony. (EDIT: to be clear, American hegemony is waning. The powder keg is uncapped, and we’re one of the parties throwing in matches.)

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inigyou 6 hours ago | parent [-]

America is who's propping up all the far right parties now. America wants a destable, fractured Europe. Russia too, but America has more funds.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> America is who's propping up all the far right parties now Oh, to be clear, yes.

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epolanski 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So what?

I despise such openly xenophobic posts.

And Indian immigration tends to be the most educated and wealthy. It's also the wealthiest ethnic group in the US. By far.

In any case, leaving Schengen for Switzerland would be de facto equivalent to Brexit, an economic disaster.

Switzerland thrives by attracting highly qualified professionals for it's service and manufacturing industries and yes, also at the lower end where Swiss nationals aren't lining up to be plumbers, couriers or cleaning staff.

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abc03 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The plumbers I had were all Swiss. There is not an overproportional amount of foreigners working in this profession.

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viking123 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe they prefer living amongst themselves than make number go to the moon. If these guys are such GDP rocket fuel and a solution, they can make their own country the best in the world.

I visited few times and I like the country but I don't expect them to accept or cater to me.

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epolanski 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Who's they?

> If these guys are such GDP rocket fuel and a solution, they can make their own country the best in the world.

Not every country in the world gives the same opportunities, it's only natural many motivated individuals may try their chances elsewhere, I see nothing wrong with it.

I'm an European and I have many grandparents and their relatives who emigrated to Argentina, US, Canada a century or so ago.

My parents left communist Poland for Italy in the 70s.

Many of my friends left Italy and now reside in the UK, Netherlands, Switzerland, Australia and some in the US too.

Overly xenophobic anti immigration stances don't resonate with me at all.

Immigration is a net benefit for humanity, it has had a huge impact on distributing human capital where it could best express it's talents.

Like everything it has its cons and regulations are needed. But none of those should be rooted on open racism.

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geremiiah 5 hours ago | parent [-]

IDK about Argentina, but the US, Australia and Canada went through the whole cycle post WWII. At first they opened up their borders because they were in need of workers. However, at some point, due to various factors, including rising anti-immigration sentiments, they retightened their immigration policies again. This all happened pre-1990s. And all of those are immigration countries, unlike countries in Europe.

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epolanski 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Mate, none of those governments were led by natives but immigrants and their descendants.

Unless you live under a rock it's not Crazy Horse or Geronimo sitting in the white house, but a descendant of immigrants.

	▲	Thraway198 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Crazy Horse and Geronimo's ancestors also came from elsewhere. No one just springs up from the ground.