| All of your analogies fail because you ignore the fact that (a) most people are happy shoppers who genuinely enjoy buying much of what they buy, and who anticipate newer and better releases of games, movies, restaurants, and other products; and (b) most people could simply opt out, own nothing, and go live in the woods if they wanted to, but would strongly prefer not to. You yourself are using an expensive phone or computer to type Hacker News comments, presumably not at gunpoint because you choose to do so. Which means you think it's better than the alternative that you're apparently glorifying. |
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| ▲ | titzer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | People share a terrifyingly large amount of DNA with mice and apes and other creatures that can become hopelessly addicted to self-destructive behaviors. What is also interesting is the susceptibility of many people to believe really insane things. People join cults. People start cults. People do the cinnamon and tide pod challenges. People jump of bridges. People commit copycat suicide. People do lots immoral and stupid things when that's society's standards. And no, I don't think that most people are "happy shoppers" but seem deeply disaffected about their lives, and shopping might be a compulsive behavior that helps them soothe underlying fears of dread. | | |
| ▲ | csallen 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The most insane belief that people currently possess is that we should all be miserable, despite living in what is undoubtedly the best, most prosperous, safest, healthiest, and most abundant age of all of human history. It's a cult, and its members don't even realize they're a part of it. | | |
| ▲ | inigyou an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Was the world less prosperous, safe, healthy, and abundant in 2005? If you don't measure it in clock cycles per second? | |
| ▲ | titzer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh, I agree. I don't think we should be miserable. We'd be a lot less miserable with less stuff and more friends. Less internet (probably), more music and hobbies. Yet here we are :) | | |
| ▲ | csallen 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Many of us aren't miserable, love our stuff, and love our music, friends, and hobbies! And I suspect many more would be in the same camp if they weren't being told so often that "everybody's miserable." When people hear "the world sucks" enough times, they start think, "the world does suck", and easily enough that leads to "my life sucks". Hearing that the world is great can help have the opposite effect. But it's often derided as foolish or even insensitive not to dwell on the negative. |
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| ▲ | inigyou 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Name one person who enjoys renting shelter. | | |
| ▲ | csallen 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I loved renting for many years and highly preferred it to buying. As do many of my friends. Frequent topic of conversation. | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Name one person who enjoys paying for a new roof and mowing the lawn. | | |
| ▲ | inigyou an hour ago | parent [-] | | Exactly. I'd like to live in a concrete box - *my* concrete box - but it's not allowed! |
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