I am interested in your implication that European farmers would have someone other than themselves to blame for this outcome. As a whole they are at least as backwards as American farmers. They are largely deniers of climate change either as a thing altogether or as something attributable to man, or are prone to believing it helps them with longer growing seasons, and their main political activity is protesting any changes in their diesel fuel subsidies.

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piskov 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well for one example of such case: German farmers (if there are any) could argue whether all those nuclear plants shutdowns were really for the best.

	▲	jeffbee 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I am even more intrigued by the "no German farmers" hypothesis.

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camgunz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's no referees in politics, and no rule that anyone's positions have to be consistent. You can complain about it the entire time farmer after farmer leaves shit pile after shit pile in the highways.

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croes 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess that’s what parent meant.

But just because it’s also their fault doesn’t hinder them to blame the government.

Who do you think will MAGA blame for the consequences of climate change?

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solid_fuel an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Who do you think will MAGA blame for the consequences of climate change?

They'll blame the people measuring the temperature, just like the did with covid when they blamed the testing for the rise in infection. They are, as a whole, very stupid people who really don't have the mental flexibility required to handle nuance.

So they'll do what small-minded people always do - they'll shoot the messenger, then when that doesn't work they'll start blaming everyone who looks, lives, or believes differently from themselves.

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bryanrasmussen 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Woke black people who sleep with members of their own gender!!

	▲	amanaplanacanal 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Stupid woke climate.

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intended an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I remember a ted talk about climate change denial, and the speaker humanized the other parties beautifully.

On engaging with deniers, he realized that denial was the only rational choice those people had. Climate change meant that their way of life, their livelihoods, history, homes, family and more, was gone.

Disbelief was a way to have control over the impossible.

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snickerbockers 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't see any point in blaming individuals and small businesses when wealthy investors and politicians aren't even pretending not to be giddy about all the new trade routes that open as sea ice melts.

Nobody should ever adopt sustainable practices from which you only benefit when everybody else does, in which case a minority of people who didn't adopt sustainable practices also benefit. That's just bad economics.

And then there's all the wealthy hypocrites who criticize the middle class while they make weekly flights with private jets. And dont forget the coal powered data centers, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some hypocrisy there from the epstein class too.