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PaulDavisThe1st 8 hours ago

The point of farming is literally to "extract the value" that something else creates.

> The work is done by the seed/sun/soil/water.

and the farmer collects. It's not that the farmer does nothing or deserves nothing. But it is precisely the same as the capitalist model: the capitalist sets the stage for labor to do the work, and then collects.

As others have noted, the central question is who gets to benefit from what is created and why.

Cyph0n 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> But it is precisely the same as the capitalist model

It’s only the same if you consider natural resources and human labor to be equivalent. To me, that sounds quite reductive.

PaulDavisThe1st 6 hours ago | parent [-]

From the perspective of the farmer re: natural resources and the capitalist re: human labor, they are precisely the same: an existing capability in the world that can be used to produce value that can be sold for more than that production costs.

Obviously when viewed from other perspectives, they differ significantly.

Cyph0n 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Understood, but you're removing the moral aspect of the capitalist's exploitation of labor from a discussion on why the capitalist gets to make a billion dollars and the farmer doesn't.