You should see what people were capable of in the darkroom, let alone before all this. You could always manipulate imagery ever since there was imagery to manipulate.

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Arodex 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is why:

- the whole roll of negatives was prime evidence;

- police forces were one of the biggest users of Polaroid instant film.

And moreover, who had a darkroom and the skills to edit substantially a picture?

Whereas here we have nobodies being able to generate pixel-perfect fake "evidence" from the computers they already have.

	▲	asdff 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Plenty of people. If you have running water, some tape, and trashbags, you too could have a darkroom. https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/objects/objects@exhibi... The roll itself can be manipulated too. Most of the techniques used in modern photoshop are basically 1:1 carry overs of darkroom processes. Layers, dodge and burn, masking, etc. There was a time you could take this class in highschool.

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olyjohn 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Big difference between that and writing an AI prompt.

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asdff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Not really. End result is the same: manipulated image.

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pyth0 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Are we really pretending like the effort to do something doesn't affect how often that thing occurs?

	▲	asdff 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Are we acting like that was ever a limiting factor towards disseminating propaganda in the analog age?

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mukbangpervert 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We've gone from highly skilled people being able to forge some specific photos and documents using substantial time/energy/resources, to any asshole being able to generate realistic full-motion video in minutes.

I get that there is a certain type of moron who thinks that the collapse in cost of misinformation has no harm... but all you've done is announce to the world that you are a moron.

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asdff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It is really not any different. People would throw a hubcap in the air and pitch it as a UFO photo and idiots would latch on to that. You could take a photo of the empire state building and use a double exposure to make it look like you were king kong. Kids were doing this sort of stuff. Stop motion home movies where you'd look like you were levitating or your head got cut off.

It always comes down to provenance.

	▲	mukbangpervert 8 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		People are just lining up to announce that they're fucking idiots.

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croes 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How many people could do that?

How long did it take?

Now it’s a lot easier and faster

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asdff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Plenty could.

https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/objects/objects@exhibi...

	▲	croes 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Compared to now https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.ZS