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| ▲ | dcatx 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Having lived in Texas for 30+ years and now happily living in southern California, I feel pretty qualified in saying that my personal quality of life is dramatically better in California. The cost of living is higher, but I get a tremendous amount of value for the extra costs and wouldn't move back to Texas for any amount of money at this point. Los Angeles is a very safe city for its size, I live in a comfortable, walkable neighborhood and I just got back from a run through a beautiful, well-maintained city park. My neighborhood is diverse, my representatives care about what is happening, and the city and state government generally try to make things better for the people who live here, even if they don't always succeed. I rarely felt that to be true in my 30+ years in Texas. Austin is a great city, but the cost of living is high enough now that it is very hard to justify it vs. the dramatically higher quality of life, access to nature and culture, and incredible weather that you get in southern California. |
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| ▲ | darth_avocado 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It’s always amazing to see people who have a certain view of California or San Francisco because of what they’ve been told all their lives to finally come here and realize that it’s actually a very nice place to live. Like San Francisco is one of the best cities to live in (if you can afford to). Why would you not want a nice weather year long, great food scene, access to outdoors, good employment prospects, walkable/bikeable streets and low crime rates (yes San Francisco has very low crime rates as compared to any other major city despite what the media headlines say). | |
| ▲ | qwerpy 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Funny, I moved to SoCal (Orange County) from the Seattle area and have also found it to be a huge improvement in everything except air and water quality. Can’t have everything I suppose. But the politics are much more sane, crime is low, and there are so many parks and playgrounds that can be used year round. The city government listens to residents (no, we don’t want dense housing, we want a big park) and although cost of living / taxes are high, we get a great quality of life in exchange. |
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| ▲ | lern_too_spel 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The editors of the magazine whose article we are commenting on have repeatedly placed the blame for poor governance of the state's finances on Proposition 13, which is not a progressive proposition. |
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| ▲ | devindotcom 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I know, right? Prosperity, civil rights, an enormous economy leading the country and the nation, and fiscal policies that make rich assholes ostentatiously relocate. Just terrible! |
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| ▲ | Izikiel43 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Highest COL in the country, a lot of it due to regulations, zoning and prop 13 which prevent density and building. Paris has the same area as SF but 3X the population. | | |
| ▲ | jleyank 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Probably one of the highest salary areas for non-owners as well. Pretty good weather, particularly near San Diego. As people have pointed out, Prop 13 isn't progressive. Nor, really are the NIMBY rules that keep housing density low and prices high. Some folks dislike the fact that it's a desert. It wiggles quite a bit and has been known to burn. Few blizzards, though. Little frostbite. | |
| ▲ | no_wizard 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Fixable problems by any measure though |
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| ▲ | BigTTYGothGF 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What parades would those be? | | | |
| ▲ | no_wizard 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This feels like FUD, I have lived in California for a long time and I’m not really sure what it is you’re trying to reference as a negative. |
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| ▲ | Nesco 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Quite incredible that you get downvoted while extreme left talking points posted on threads that are not political whatsoever face no issues. HN is less and less a tech news aggregator and more and more an orange Reddit |
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| ▲ | qwerpy 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Every forum with overly online people goes this way. I’ve stopped visiting Reddit, and let Google summarize their content for me so I don’t have to wade into the sewage. HN isn’t as bad yet but it has noticeably gotten worse since the 2024 election. | |
| ▲ | NewJazz 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is it intended to be a tech news aggregator though? |
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| ▲ | functionmouse 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yeah, they got rid of the smog. Just terrible. |
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| ▲ | stouset 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | And have increased their standing to the world’s fourth largest economy. Absolutely terrible. | | |
| ▲ | jltsiren 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The sixth largest, more likely. US dollar declined enough last year that Japan and the UK probably surpassed California again. And India is also getting close to California. | |
| ▲ | kelseyfrog 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You have to understand that to a conservative, living in CA feels like dying. It's a feeling of constant intense psychic pain. | | |
| ▲ | jleyank 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Tell them to move to Orange County. Unless there's been total demographic changes since the 1990's, they'll feel fine. | | |
| ▲ | qwerpy 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | I can confirm this. Fairly conservative family guy, love it here in OC. Not sure if due to balanced politics or apathy to politics but it’s awesome. After leaving the Seattle area where I was getting hostility from randoms on the street just for driving a Tesla, I feel at home here. |
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| ▲ | tadfisher 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Plenty of conservative areas in CA and the Left Coast in general. They don't have to live in fear of smelling marijuana on the streets of SF. | |
| ▲ | QuercusMax 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But why? Because they can't oppress people as much as they want, and it drives them nuts? |
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| ▲ | kmeisthax 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| ...turning a bunch of Boomer homeowners into members of a landed gentry is progressive? |
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| ▲ | NewJazz 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Democrat = Liberal = Progressive in these folks minds. I think that already starts the discussion off on a challenging foot. |
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| ▲ | NewJazz 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You think California is ruled by progressives? There are a lot of moderate Dems. It is just nationally "Republican" has gained a reputation of christofascism and/or cult of Trump. |
