| ▲ | bad_username 5 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Cancer is not one thing, I know this is a popular "well actually" to do, but it is not always useful in a conversation. Yes, all cancers are different, but yes, cancer is also one thing: unchecked, harmful division of cells. Bacteria are also all different, but still they are "one thing", and despite their diversity, antibiotics exist that can deal with many species of them at once. It is reasonable to talk about bacteria and antibacterial medications, it is also reasonable to talk about cancer and cancer treatment. I truly hope cancer will meet its "penicillin" one day (yes I know this is unlikely). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | dpark 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It seems relevant here because the question was “How will this potentially help me if I get cancer?” and the answer is “Not at all unless you get a particular form of cancer that this applies to”. > Bacteria are also all different, but still they are "one thing", and despite their diversity, antibiotics exist that can deal with many species of them at once. Except people don’t ask “what if I get bacteria” the way they ask about cancer. If the story was about a new antibiotic that only affected 20% of common infectious bacteria strains and someone asked “in laypersons terms, how will this help me if I get a bacterial infection”, it would be appropriate to clarify that it only applies to some bacteria. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | bruce511 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I understand where you are coming from here, but I think it is helpful for people to overtly grasp that there are very different cancers, very different treatments, and indeed very different outcomes. Without this understanding it becomes a quick jump from "we're spending all this money on cancer" to "we've made no progress" An example of the nuance plays out in the common cancers (like breast and prostrate). These have between 90 and 100% 5 year survival rates. Others (like the one in this article, pancreatic) have very poor survivability. As you note, it's very unlikely that we'll "cure cancer". But we already "cure" (for some definition of cure) some cancers. Progress is slow, methodical, and incremental. It can feel like a lost cause when viewed from afar, but up close very real progress is being made. And that's an important message to pass along. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | shevy-java 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> I truly hope cancer will meet its "penicillin" one day (yes I know this is unlikely). Penicillin blocks a specific enzyme (transpeptidase). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin-binding_proteins Cancer cells, by definition, are not a uniform mass. It will depend on the cancer type, which in turn is defined by the properties those cells have. And mutations happen all the time, often more in cancer cells when their repair systems also have mutations, e. g. are less efficient. By that definition alone, there can never be a wonder-cure for all cancer types. At best you can find some proteins more important (p53 for instance) and while more than 50% of cancer cells have some form of mutation in p53, others simply don't. By that definition there will never be a penicillin-equivalent to all cancer types. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | warumdarum 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The problem is the similarities of cancer to normal cells. We have penicilin that works against all human cells. We call that poison. Now, "no, i mean poisons that attack the special chemistry of cancer," oh yes, those we call chemo. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | IshKebab 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You've been downvoted but I would say you are right. It would be more accurate to say "cancer does not have one cause". | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | otabdeveloper4 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Benign cancers are a thing. They might not kill like they show in the Hollywood movies, but your quality of life will be significantly diminished. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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