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arjie 5 hours ago

Pretty sad, in my opinion. In my ideal the state should have visibility into the shape of the people present so that we can make good decisions about our combined organization. I think we’re making a mistake we will come to regret by intentionally damaging our data collection infrastructure.

I think a large amount of the US’s success is the result of good institutions handling granular data. Policies can be adjusted to match outcomes more rapidly than otherwise.

I understand why people decide to diminish all state capacity - they feel that governments are populated by their opponents who will use state capacity against them. But as our relative strength wanes, our ability to overcome these forces of inertia does as well. And then our governments become less capable and eventually life starts getting worse.

We don’t need house-level data immediately (except perhaps in order to place census blocks within their appropriate congressional district etc). But there are aggregation units above which we should be using as good information as we possibly could be.

tempodox 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I think we’re making a mistake we will come to regret by intentionally damaging our data collection infrastructure.

Intentionally damaging infrastructure is the recurring theme of this administration.

bee_rider 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’d be more interested in giving my state detailed info, letting them run programs. The country can have aggregate data.

pjc50 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The history of the VRA suggests that several states simply cannot be trusted to do that for all their residents.

TehCorwiz 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

This federal administration also cannot be trusted. Perhaps the solution is that both the states and the feds run separate censuses so that any broad stroke manipulation or blind spots can be noticed and reconciled.

NewJazz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That works great for real states, but some states are just three mining companies in a trenchcoat.

Bratmon 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But this article is about a decision to damage the census less. If you value an accurate census, you should be celebrating!

Dylan16807 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

If they follow the rules, preserving privacy via cruder methods, the data will be much more damaged.

For any particular level of privacy, the banned methods can give you more accurate data. For any particular level of accuracy, the banned methods can give you better privacy.

The only way we're getting more accurate data is if the new rule causes them to largely abandon privacy. That would be bad. Harm for no benefit.

swiftcoder 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

TFA lays out why things don't work that way. If you erode trust in the privacy of census responses, an awful lot of folks will have to start lying on their census

Bratmon 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the TFA was very light on evidence that people's desire to respond to the census is increased if the government fabricates the results later