How about we should be "counting illegals" so that we know how many of them there are?

(Do you reject that? As someone who uses the phrase "counting illegals" I imagine you would be interested in knowing what that number is.)

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latency-guy2 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Counting illegals on a poorly defined framework of which is largely self attestation?

	▲	latency-guy2 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		We also know that this premise is simply wrong, Census is statistical survey, no party in the world is legally allowed to inspect the contents of the individual form via Title 13. Counting illegals is not possible under the Census currently or in any point in the future most likely https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/13/9 https://www.census.gov/topics/population/foreign-born/about/...

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abletonlive 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

First off the census is used for determining how many seats are used for congressional apportionment and allocating federal funds.

So unless you're willing to also say that counted illegals cannot used for either of those, then you're just being obtuse.

But if we can agree that they cannot be used for that then sure, lets identify and count them. If we can't identify (make non-private) and count them then why should we trust that those counts are accurate?

	▲	knollimar 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		"If we can't identify (make non-private) and count them then why should we trust that those counts are accurate?" You're trading a chance of accuracy (good faith handling of data) for a guarantee of non-accuracy